mr. simmons, good to see you. >> hi, harris. >> also the author of the directive.e general, you knew him. you were a supporter of his. you still are. were you surprised it hear the news about him resigning? >> and i'm sighing for the big sigh, but, yes, i do know him. he is an outstanding man. he is outstanding american. he he has led america through some very very very difficult times. i think many of us are surprised that these kind of things happen. i think as you know, harris, i think perhaps and certainly many of my friends here at fox news know i just lost my wife to stage 4 breast cancer in the last two months. and so i'm a little jaded to it. >> harris: hence the sigh. >> we are just a little shocked. here is what i can also tell you. i can tell you with absolute certainty that the -- there are very few at the cia, for whatever reason. that are shedding tears over this. it is not because they think less of general petraeus, it's that because the majority of those at the cia did not believe that he should have been in that position to start with. >> harris: