mr. simonson, the argue is the incentive is you don't want to annoy china.ou don't want to anger china. you don't want to push back because they're a big funder, they've been very nice to the w.h.o. under tedros, and that tedros was their candidate. that's the argument. >> yeah. well, in my experience as the secretary, i have never seen any favoritism shown towards really any particular member state. it is a one vote one state institution. and it is true that -- that china contributes to the organization. the mostly assessed contributions, but others do as well. >> what will the w.h.o. look like if the united states freezes funding or even leaves the organization? for you as an american who works at the w.h.o., how does that make you feel? >> i could never bring myself to think about the united states leaving w.h.o. w.h.o. and the united states have been connected since the very beginning. w.h.o. was founded by the united states and other member states. w.h.o. has benefited from enormous generosity from the people of the united states. and almost incalculati