mr. sincroy. if you are going to adapt that language the second sense i've have conflicting advise on the interpretation of that session and probably b would be best to delete that sentence. >> sentence the sunshine ordinance section sited doesn't apply to the vice president only individuals. >> correct. >> i would welcome the views of the city attorney or the staff on commissioner keanes and commissioner andrews questions about whether it's even appropriate for the grand jury to direct inquires to an employee rather than the commission and therefore, whether the commission should respond to everything as asserted. >> deputy director i'll defer to the city attorney on this but i know that the governing provision in the pencil penal code it says the list of public entities that are required to respond to the judge. >> i on says it all it's not a public entity we're the public entity. >> yeah. jessie i want to definitely see the actual language that i can look at a row this is a brief summer in the