mr. sincroy received marks internally with the staff i just want to thank you for your leadership and jack, i wish you guarantee good luck in the future. >> item 11 items for future meetings. >> commissioner renne i will take up your i'm willing to take on the - and the whistle blower. >> the issues. >> i appreciate that. >> this will possible be for a closed session i wanted to discuss fog that we hold. >> i'm willing to have a discussion. >> me, too. >> that's what i'm looking for our complaint log wanted to discuss that. >> the utility functions of it. >> great over and above the fy. >> i think i asked you the question about it would be helpful to know the date they were filed and you pointed to something that shows the date. >> the case no. includes the date so the first two numbers - what? >> (inaudible). >> yeah. first numbers of the case number the second two digits with the year and then the most and day and. >> that's what i was trying to figure out that is the way you date them okay. >> just by way of background fixing the staff is working on a new database for tracking this one

mr. sincroy the other choice would have been an unmitigate disaster so it is a tough grab trying to figure out ways to craft to get someone here it is a tough job thank you. >> thank you. >> i'm rob and i was on crystal grand jury i think that should have a session that outlines the leg framework the position and the commission better than what you have now you have kind of mashed together and outlined by the chart you have the governmental conduct code and finance code that the notification noifgsz staff in enforcing and the relationship with the california laws and the f p t c the ethics commission staff is administrative review form 7 hundred filings with the f pbc and then get a sense that the ethics commission itself can put things on the ballot and many of the things within the governmental conduct code initialed by the voters in san francisco in response a abuses by elected officials in the past thank you. >> thank you. >> derrick occur again, this commissions own code of ethics calls for form of within the political process that too often comes from outsiders civil grand juries wit

mr. sincroy i'm a with his i will blower i brought any complaint and my retaliation complaint in the ethics commission in 2010 all of them were dismissed i sued the city and got a $750,000 and the city had to pay $1.2 million hit for the taxpayers notice of violation records show that whistle blowers claims have been investigated since june of 1995 some 60 retaliation complaints through the notifications not one zero have been substantiated it is for the benchmark issued by the big corporation that studies 8 thousand whistle blower hostile line it is 10 percent internationally here zero percent so this staggering statistics suggests the ethics commission is complexity in the repression of city employees with break ranks in order to serve the public interest this commissioner is a dead end for whistle blowers first of all you whistle blowers have threats not assets your investigations are sfoishl and there's aimed at ex-ordinarily respondent that's the intention instead of being have not you do submit to city its third reading who's duties to defend city officials that are exposes by whistle

mr. sincroy the other choice would have been an unmitigate disaster so it is a tough grab trying to figure out ways to craft to get someone here it is a tough job thank you. >> thank you. >> i'm rob and i was on crystal grand jury i think that should have a session that outlines the leg framework the position and the commission better than what you have now you have kind of mashed together and outlined by the chart you have the governmental conduct code and finance code that the notification noifgsz staff in enforcing and the relationship with the california laws and the f p t c the ethics commission staff is administrative review form 7 hundred filings with the f pbc and then get a sense that the ethics commission itself can put things on the ballot and many of the things within the governmental conduct code initialed by the voters in san francisco in response a abuses by elected officials in the past thank you. >> thank you. >> derrick occur again, this commissions own code of ethics calls for form of within the political process that too often comes from outsiders civil grand juries wit