mr. skefino and myself and a number of us have been tested and come back with negative results. and yet at the same time, i fully expect that as this virus continues to go on, other people in the white house will certainly have a positive test result. >> we're going to talk more about that comment from mark meadows in a second. vice president pence, he still plans to travel to salt lake city next week for his debate with kamala harris. his doctor put out a statement this afternoon saying that pence tested negative today and he is in good health and does not need to quarantine. joe biden, who shared a debate stage with president trump on tuesday, his staff reports he has tested negative for coronavirus today as well. but, let's be honest, this is just the very beginning. the first chapter in what is no doubt going to be a long and serious story that gets to the core of our entire conversation since the beginning of this pandemic. a virus that does not discriminate. the clear mitigation efforts that protect you and your neighbor and the president who have flouted and dismissed and