mr. skinas, we always tell folks would want to withdraw their appeals to understand that if you do so, the board will no longer have any jurisdiction over this matter. >> yes,. >> okay, thank you. >> good luck. >> okay, so item number 8 has been withdrawn, we'll move on to items 9a, b, c and d, this is appeal number 14197 14198 and 1419, against the building inspection with the planning department approval. the properties at 1325 kansas city, the first appeal is protesting the issuance on november 13th to michael welch to remove ill laoem permit and bathroom from second floor legalize illegal bathroom the next is for an electric permit and the third is plumbing permit to remove illegal cap all utilities at the source. we will start with the appellant, there are three appeals so you have 21 minutes if you need to use them. >> i'm alex, the attorney for the appellant, i don't plan to use the full 21 minutes. the situation here, there was a single family home that was built over a century ago and when the permit holder and property owner bought the property he constructed an unpermitted unit