mr. snowden. we will be checking twitter. f you want to use the cato hash tag you can send questions my way, the spy-con hash tag. we'll take a look at that and we have oon as looming behind us like an apple ad, mr. snowden. >> ah ha. >> good afternoon, edward. applause] >> thanks very much. >> julian, do you want to lead in? >> sure. welcome, edward. can you hear us? we can't hear you yet. hold on. >> one second. minor technical difficulty. >> we can also do this in sign anguage. >> let's set up -- i think he can hear us now. ey should have the audio resolved momentarily. the obvious question here is we've had more than a year and a half of stories based on mr. snowden's disclosures perculating out. eestablish our connection. >> people are actually using angouts today. >> while we arrange for him to be able to be heard as well as o hear us, we've had a year of disclosures that ignited a pretty fierce debate. so the obvious question is for someone who has paid an extraordinary price and essentially surrendered a fairly comfor

mr. snowden obviously made that issue much more complicated. it requires us to make determinations that on one side, civil libertarians say the government does not have the right without reason to listen to your phone calls to damascus. then on our side, we have to monitor some of this activity. if we had not been able to monitor some of this act of e, maybe 9/11 would have been invented. that really is the crux of the debate here. i will require some very tough discussion. frankly we are all disgusted. when we hear of some innocent individual who has done nothing that they are tired of phone records and everything else, they've made some government agencies examining, that concerns me as it concerns all of us. there's got to be a good balance here and we have not found it yet. the other thing we want to do, i mention again, if there is an overall mission -- i'm not doing this by myself. we have good colleagues in bob corker, lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell trying to develop as much as possible a policy that drives budgets. we are now in a budg

mr. snowden used to work for, to block the keystone pipeline and its cargo of filthy oil from the tar sandsanada. we stand in solidarity with activists losing the glaciers that supply their drinking water and bangladeshi activist watching the seas rise. we will learn from african leaders like desmond tutu, who recently called time of change the greatest human rights challenge of our time, and from sami leaders who are watching winter weather wrecked time-honored ways of life. we struggle alongside residents of delhi and beijing and the other smog-trooped patroclus's of our planet, for we other children die from the same false of fuel combustion that endangers the whole earth. we look with great inspiration to the countries like germany that are demonstrating daily that it is entirely possible to turn to renewable energy for the power that we need on this planet. global warming is a test for all of us -- d test in our time on earth. it is a test in a sense of whether the big brain was a good adaptation after all. clearly, that brain can get us in a good deal of trouble, but maybe, just maybe

mr. snowden. that is my comment. keep up the good work. guest: i have not talked to that particular news station but i have found a number that have allowed me to work on orphaned stories, and i'm seeking those outlets. fox: you were recently on talking about the cdc and ebola numbers. what did you find out? when ebola dropped off the face of news coverage, it -- ande to suspect should not fall off altogether. i rely on sources to deal with infectious disease and some deal directly with the ebola crisis. they remain very much concerned. i spoke to cdc a couple of weeks ago and asked them how many were being people monitored when they come back from a country that is infected to make sure they do not have ebola, and at the time there cdc said cases the they were actively monitoring, but that seemed to me to be an important story, and when i asked where is the update on the website because cdc often will have a page for emerging and developing diseases and problems and they will update that periodically, they said we're not putting this on t

mr. snowden obviously made that issue much more complicated.equires us to make determinations that on one side, civil libertarians say the government does not have the right without reason to listen to your phone calls to damascus. then on our side, we have to monitor some of this activity. if we had not been able to monitor some of this act of e, maybe 9/11 would have been invented. that really is the crux of the debate here. i will require some very tough iscussion. frankly we are all disgusted. when we hear of some innocent individual who has done nothing that they are tired of phone records and everything else, they've made some government agencies examining, that concerns me as it concerns all of us. there's got to be a good balance here and we have not found it yet. the other thing we want to do, i mention again, if there is an overall mission -- i'm not doing this by myself. we have good colleagues in bob corker, lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell trying to develop as much as possible a policy that drives budgets. we are now in a budget dri

mr. snowden. -- therefore at a faster bus they don't have our right, we are foreigners estevan. we are foreigners as to the subzero, the counterpart to the tsa. if privacy protection should only protects you should only protect city sensor only protect people in the united states and not anybody else outside of the united states, we are opening ourselves up to reciprocal treatment. so we can have all the protections of the world vis-À-vis nsa, but a step to can do whatever i want to monitor business, to what extent do we really have privacy? i think that is kind of an emerging area where i don't -- i doubt the courts are likely to do with it very affect delete, but i think they are certainly great international concern about it and so it is going to have to be dealt with in one way or another or we will have lost our privacy regardless of what message rules we create by virtue of not having treaties or other kinds of agreements with foreign government that similarly constrained them. >> david, just a pushback on that that, chief justice frank with good reason people come at the

mr. snowden regarding the incredible scale and scope of collection by the national security agency. but the technologies used in intelligence and in the name of national security are also increasingly finding their way into domestic law enforcement efforts as has often been the case in our history. we find the cutting edge military technology is within a few years often widely deployed law enforcement technology. and so of course this presents difficult questions. questions that you are forced to deal with and the men which of science fiction. then of course it involves projecting forward the implications of these technologies, not just as individual novelties, but in their aggregate effect on our economy and our relationship with the state. looking back to the middle of the last century in our history, we also know the terrible price that can be exacted when secret surveillance tools are used without adequate oversight. we know that across many presidents with many parties in power, we have seen how the ability to secretly surveille not just enemies of the state but enemies of the

mr. snowden. that is my comment. keep up the good work. guest: i have not talked to that particular news station but i have found a number that have allowed me to work on orphaned stories, and i'm seeking those outlets. host: you were recently on fox talking about the cdc and ebola numbers. what did you find out? guest: when ebola dropped off the face of news coverage, it leads me to suspect there has been an effort to manage the news. it should not fall off altogether. i rely on sources to deal with infectious disease and some deal directly with the ebola crisis. they remain very much concerned. i spoke to cdc a couple of weeks ago and asked them how many patients or people were being monitored when they come back from a country that is infected to make sure they do not have ebola, and at the time there were 1400 cases the cdc said it was actively monitoring, but that seemed to me to be an important story, and when i asked where is that update on the website, because cdc often will have a page for emerging and developing diseases and prob

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mr. snowden wants to come back to the united states today, we will have him on aly if the today. do you think anyone acted in a criminal way in dealing with these ignition switches? >> in this case, we failed our customers. >> another blast of the dangerous cold is heading back to the midwest and northeast. >> we have been talking about this phrase, the polar vortex. >> the polar vortex. >> the polar vortex. >> two words we could have gone the rest of this winter without. guess what, it ain't done by a long shot. >> a massive tornado countries 80-mile path of destruction through arkansas. >> and this is what's left of the kimberly church of god. incredible scene in washington state. >> the desperate search for survivors and up to 20 feet of mud. out west, people are still struggling with that historic drought. >> imagine knowing when your home was going to be destroyed and all could you do is watch it happen. >> ferguson in flames. angry protesters reacted to a grand jury decision not to indict the police officer who shot michael brown, jr. [ bleep ] >> protesters taken to the st

mr. snowden regarding the incredible scale and scope of collection by the national security agency. the technologies used in intelligence and in the name of national security are also increasingly finding their way into domestic law enforcement efforts as has often been the case in our history. we find the cutting edge military technology is within a deployed for widely law enforcement technology. this presents difficult questions, questions that if you follow debates about privacy, forces us to deal with in the language of science fiction because it involves projecting it forward, the implications of these new technologies, not just but invidual novelties their aggregate on our autonomy withur relationship technology. looking back to the middle of the last century in our history, we also now the terrible price that can be exacted when secret surveillance tools are used without adequate oversight. we know that across many presidents with many parties in power, we have seen how the ability to secretly surveille not just enemies of the state but enemies of the regime in used to entren

mr. mcintyre rightly points out litigation. but the essential thing is this. the hollywood community in general from what i remember was supportive of snowden to some extent. thing is done to the hollywood community and then they're not supportive anymore. and there is a whiff of hypocrisy there, mr. fowler, i think you would agree. >> i don't know about that one, bill. a whiff of hypocrisy might be a little too strong. at the end of the day -- >> to use president obama's a smidgen? a little? >> a skosh of hypocrisy. whistle-blowers are hailed orrvillified depending on whose whistle is blown. it was launched against a major company to punish the company for making this picture. and now the issue is very -- because the company has decided. >> the terrorists win. >> the company decided not to release the film. >> it's not hard to be a terrorist because they'll do anything. and the civil people won't. and so the terrorists win. we hope the fbi get them. we hope they do. >> i hope so. i'm going go see the movie, bill. >> you can't now. they're not going to release it now. so you'll be the only one standing throughout going where is the movie? they pulled it. al

politics aside there's an awful lot of people on the revelations from snowden that might say politically this may be an issue for mrbalm ball bobama but if to reign them in as many people would want them to then the quid pro quo is they should be acting in this event. they should be acting. is that politically domestically an issue for him or is it too small fry. >> well i don't know how direct the connection is but i'm pretty confident that the nsa is not just under this president but under other presidents is vigilant to national security threats of various kinds including attempts to disrupt commerce and industry. so i think that is part of the package whether that part will change or become -- receive added focus it may but i'm not sure. >> the united states does have the capability to get back on a cyber way in essence fry the computers that the north koreans use to carry out this attack or were involved in this attack in some way. the question is whether or not the nsa and united states want to do that because the scale of the counter attack then, the reprisal attack could be enormous and extraordinarily dama

snowden, hero or villain? >> depending on who you ask in america, you get a different answer. the samwe ie -- the same mr. wood julian assange, who is attacking google and me at the moment. on the east coast, you get a negative context. they tend to view it in a more civil libertarian thing. but the courts to size -- courts decide on this issue. we do not want to encourage data leaking. think of all the databases that exist about us, all of you health records, tax records, where you are, what you are doing. it is not good for society to encourage people to do that. the disclosures were helpful in shining a light on practices that people like myself and maybe you did not know existed. we knew they were comfortable but the extent of them was a shock. especially when it starts to monitoring data traffic and google servers where they are clearly monitoring traffic for people in the u.s.. which is, i understand, and i am not a lot or, which is not the issue. the response from the tech industry is clear. massive new encryption initiatives. lawyers from the companies being tougher in court. the response from the