mr. soriano, you have six minutes. is that right or is it four minutes. >> rebuttal is three minutes times two. >> you and your counter part -- we won't take six minutes. >> public comment is after the rebuttal. >> all right, if i could just -- for our attorney, the department didn't really off a rebuttal. do we still allow the appellant to have a reboughtal? rebuttal. >> yes, our department declines to do. >> i won't take six minutes of your time. i will take advantage of the one more opportunity to emphasize the fact that mr. nolly pointed out early. we did serve a notice to temporarily vie kate. vacate. despite serving that notice in july of last summer and despite the compensation required by the san francisco rent ordinance, to date they have not surrendered possession of the unit, which is really hamstringing the owners to get the work done. i have emails from within the last 30 days between myself and their attorney where he keeps reminding me that again, the tenants remain in possession of the apartment, we hav