the people who have done the overthrows such as mr. soros and company have done in many countrys throughout the world. they tend to succeed. they tend to succeed because people want to get on with their lives. they don't want to die. >> glenn: they succeed for that reasonnism want to show you somethin -- they succeed fot reason. i want to show you something else that came to my attention about roman history. we'll do that next. >> glenn: we're back with ketch williamson, deputy national auditor of national review and author of "politically incorrect guide of socialism." and richard poe is here, author of "shadow party." both books you need to read. something that has been bothering me about this. if you want to collapse the system, you have to ensure it's done quietly. if you are doing it for money, you can't have instability in america. how many americans will fight to their dying breath if they know that they have been had? this is why it has to be discredited. we showed you in the book where people were arrested in france for writing the