mr. spiering. i would like you to explain -- i studied the foreign labor movement going back to the 1800s. has there been any time since the 1800s that immigration has been cut to zero in the history of the united states? they said trump would immigration but it never went down to zero, hasn't come down to zero in 200 years. they say that kamala harris is supposed to stop this, something our country hasn't been able to stop for 200 years? what is the expectation for her to do something that no one else has done for 200 years? i will take your answer offline. thank you. guest: that's a good point and certainly the issue on the border has been a struggle for every administration, which is i think why biden gave the issue to the kamala harris. it's a thankless task. you are expected to deliver messaging to migrants telling them not to come, but the policies remain with the border open so it seems they can come. that's where she struggled on the issue, she was expected to send a message that differed w