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mr. springsteen as part of this honoring the vets is an insult.t's as if everyone forgot that he was one of the leading voices saying i support the troops but i oppose your mission which is analogical position. host: they are talking about the concert that is happening this evening on the mall. hbo will be filming that. are you agree? guest: bruce springsteen cannot deny that he is a great performer. i think this concert is just an outlet for veterans and military personnel to go and enjoy themselves. you have to separate the two. they will be able to go out tonight and have great entertainment and be honored because today is veterans day. anyway we can honor veterans, i think we need to do that. host: the caller also brought up troops returning to iraq and the first have arrived in and our province -- anbar province. what do you make of the troops returning to iraq? guest: we never want troops to be in harms way at any time. would have to trust that's what's being done is what our nation is to be doing. host: laramie, wyoming, a veteran and repub

mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. ♪ >> reporter: even bruce springsteen joined in when in 1988 he was invitedast. and told the crowd in german -- i've come in hope that one day the barriers will be torn down. when it finally happened on november 9th, 1989, no one was prepared. people on both sides surged to and then on to the wall after hearing that east germany was going to open the border. they were gambling the guards wouldn't shoot. and they didn't. that was the beginning of a brand new chapter for germany and for berlin. something wonderful has happened here. berlin took this wall, this grim symbol of political repression and over 25 years turned it into a grand opportunity. the old border is now part of a museum exhibit and the city is one of the top tourist destination in europe. as for the wall itself the concrete barrier is largely gone. its absence a tribute to courage and freedom. >> i remember watching that on tv live years ago. hard to believe it's 25 years already. >> i would r have liked to have been there. >>> ahead dads facing a battle often fought by moms. how winning patern