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mr. orrison: we have time for a couple questions. stand and introduce yourself. >> i'm dave from stafford. quick question. you made a brief reference to a machine gun. mr. gruber: yes. >> could you explain that? mr. gruber: no. >> thank you. [laughter] mr. gruber: all we know is that there were one or two guns possibly deployed with the excelsior line. that's all i got for you. apparently, they were not effective. it is suggested they jammed halfway in the battle. that is what i got, man. >> for full swat at home i'm , going to re-create his answer. no, and that is all i have for you. others? in the back. i have warned ted i am going to stop giving him the microphone if he doesn't remember to stand and introduce himself. >> ted williams, williamsburg. you mentioned also briefly in your presentation free negroes. how many of them were they, and were they loyal to the southern cause? mr. gruber: loyal as they would have to go back to the institution of slavery. they don't have a choice. they are either going to be paid for their work as free men, or if they don't show up, severe penalty, i.e. sold, because t

stafford. you made a brief reference to a machine gun. could you explain that? mr. gruber: no. >> thank you. [laughter] mr. gruber: -- mr. gruber: there were one or two guns possibly with the excelsior line. apparently they were not effective. it is suggested they jammed halfway during the battle. that is what i got, man. >> for folks at home, i'm going to re-create his answer. no, and that is all i have for you. others? in the back. i have warned ted i am going to stop giving him the microphone if he doesn't stand and introduce himself. williamsburg.s, you mentioned free nebrgroes. how many were there, and they were loyal -- and were they loyal to the southern cause? they don't have a choice. they are either going to be paid for their work as free men, or if they don't show up, severe because i.e. sold, local plantation owners, supporters of the confederacy, will not give up their own property to build earthworks to defend their new countries. that is why lee has to impress free men. >> were there many of them? was this a large community? mr. gruber: great question that i can't directly ans

i was pleased when we adopted the amendments to the stafford act, mr. mccarthy, the minority leader, he was then the majority leader and i were the co-sponsors of that legislation. i am pleased that mr. mccarthy and i worked together to try to make this program stronger and better. i talked to my friend garrett graves and he has a bill himself. i'm going to look carefully at that bill and work with him to do what everybody on this floor wants, make these programs work, not only for those who are damaged, not only for the communities who are ravaged by natural disasters but for the taxpayers. none of those who don't want to defend programs that don't work correctly. nobody wants to defend that. but the committee -- and we have worked closely, when i say we, my office has worked with the home builders make sure that this is a program they can work with. they do. so i would urge my colleagues in a bipartisan fashion -- let us not once again snatch partisanship from bipartisanship moving progress. so often we do that. that's a shame, particularly when a bil