mr. stearns and mr. shimkus to hold hearings and bring witnesses on both sides from texas, bring our friends from the e.p.a. both up here and dallas, come down, come up, and let's put the facts on the table and see what laws, if any, need to be changed. i'm already a co-sponsor of a bill that would make it explicit that co-2 is not a regulated pollute ant under the clean air act and should not be. i'm not saying that we may not need to issue a standard on co-2 if it is proven it is a harm to public health. but until that time, it should not be regulated under the clean air act. it was never intended to be and we think the e.p.a. is wrong to keep insisting it should be. i thank you, judge, and thank you, judge, for this special order and glad to participate. mr. carter: reclaiming my time. i thank you, mr. barton, for coming here to talk about this. you have been dedicating your life for these issues in congress. i always wonder, sometimes people back at home are saying, so what does this mean to me? i'm