was mr. steen can't in that meeting? >> he was. >> and was the firm downgraded as result of that meeting? >> the firm was downgraded three days later. i couldn't be specific as it was a result of that particular specific -- >> was it a result of anything you said at that meeting? did you say anything at the meeting? >> me, personal? >> yes. >> i spoke very little, frankly. >> did you let moody's no that mr. buswell concerned about are at risk young $2 billion you are brought in to trade, mr. corzine trade through the 2 billion-dollar number? >> that characterization certainly wouldn't have come up at that meeting, no. >> did you have an opinion as to the position of mf global at that time separate from mr. steenkamp? do you have an opinion of the firms viability? this is now 10 days before the complete implosion of the firm and the filing of bankruptcy. did you agree that the firm was viable and it was in a strong position to? >> not my area of expertise, and i relied on our cfo and finance people to help us understand i

mr. gold steen hopefully within my time. mr. black, does your state have housing school requirements for farm workers? >> no, ma'am. we abide by the h-2a. the up with that's the focus -- the one that's the focus of the 33 producers, they abide by the requirements. >> you say you don't provide housing? i said housing and schooling for the children of migrant workers. housing for the parents -- >> those are the individual responsibility of those crews that come to work with the farmers in the community. >> so it's the burden of the migrant worker, they provide their own housing? are the children allowed to go to school in georgia? >> yes, ma'am. but what would be important to know there is whether or not the family's actually with them or not. >> okay. i have to move quickly. all right. i thank you. i have to move rather quickly. do you have any american workers in your fields? u.s. -- >> very, very limited numbers. >> do they come when you call them? >> i'm sorry? >> do they come when you call them? >> i'd say the best example i