so you're saying and mr. stein is wrong here? s denied it's a capital gains -- >> bill: let me ask you this, mr. rogers, is it insane to raise capital gains when you have a recessionary environment? >> not necessarily. it depends on what you're doing with the rest of -- you can't just say one thing is right and something else is wrong and therefore, we can't do this or that. >> bill: mr. rogers -- skid marks excuse me, bowls and simpson spent a lot of time studying all this. they put out a report. it wasn't just -- it's a big fat report. read it. that's the answer. >> bill: it didn't say raise cap gains. you're the president of the united states, mr. rogers. you're trying to get us out of a stubborn economy. you're going to sit there and tell me you're going to raise the capital gains tax? are you? >> if i'm the president of the united states, i'm going to have a hell of a good time, is what i'm going to do because i'm going to change a lot of things you may not like. >> bill: are you going to raise it or not? so you're dodging my

abandon those things which made this great we are very much in jeopardy of losing it all. >> now, mr. stein-- i use the word recluse, and maybe i'm wrong. >> i use that word, to. >> will he be going on tour? >> see absolutely well. he is one of those rare authors who has said test before, you know, why would i be on tv if i don't have a book to promote. wonderful words to year as a publisher. very excited about promoting the book. he is a terrific spokesperson, just witty and funny and incisive. you know, because what he is saying is so frightening and devastating, you need and a little humor and wit to make it palatable, and he has that perfect combination of all those things. >> marji ross is that publisher of regnery, well-known as a conservative political imprint, but they have a new project coming up, and it is called 54 history. marji ross, what is this about? >> very excited about watching and the books on history, military history and american history in particular. we published books in the past, and they have done quite well, the occasional history book, but we realize that th

mr. president, i would offer into the record a letter for a number -- from a number of companies that support my efforts here. stein fibers of charlotte says -- quote -- "excel has been a solid customer of stein fibers for many years. we supply synthetic fiber fill for sleeping bags made at their plant in haleyville." wrigley inc., they say that bangladesh has alsoly entered the u.s. market and supplied over 700,000 spleepg bags last year." and they make sleeping bags, wigly's does in grand junction, colorado. they've copied their senators and they've asked that we support my effort here. ruskin corrugated containers in coleman, alabama supplies the shipping packages for these packages as they're shipped. dunlap industries in chattanooga, tennessee also say they are one of the largest suppliers of thread in the united states, and they are -- excel is a customer of theirs. murfit stone container corporation, tupelo, mississippi, is also a supplier of excel. royal slide sales company inc., of garfield, new york, says -- quote -- "royal slide provides sleeping bag cases for the factory resulting in -- the resulting de