mr. steinberger. i want to make sure that anybody we support is able to vote on all the funding matters and does not have to recuse themselves. >> we have a -- many funding sources that go into all of our programs in eocc, but they're all funneled through alameda county. >> chair peskin: gotcha. because eocc receives a lot of their funding from the city. i know that supervisor mandelman has a question for you. supervisor mandelman? >> supervisor mandelman: yeah. i don't know if you heard the question for the previous applicant, but i asked the question about the unsheltered and the need for investment in various types of exits from homelessness, from immediate shelter to permanent housing and lots of other steps in between. you've worked on lots of the other steps including problem solving, but i was curious about your thoughts on what i perceive to be a significant under sheltering and how to think about permanent supportive housing and other types of exits? >> yeah, right, i think my position starts