mr. steve forbes. rich carlguard, mike and elizabeth mcdonald, john and bruce jackson. so, rich, what does hillary actually know about business? >> well, not much. i

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mr. steve forbes. rich carlguard, mike and elizabeth mcdonald, john and bruce jackson. so, rich, what does hillary actually know about business? >> well, not much. i haven't heard any distance between her program and president obama's programs and that's led to this 2% growth. we're missing $2 trillion of growth we should have if we had better economic governing, but look, i think trump said something amazing this week. he said he wants to make america rich. that we can only be strong if we're rich. you know, that is a simple, powerful idea. >> it is a simple, powerful idea. braus, is is it a good idea? >> i think it would be a good idea if he could get anybody to adwree with him. can't ooempb get the speaker of the house to agree with him. listen, trump would bankrupt the country because he's not willing to touch entitlement and we don't know enough about his businesses because we haven't seen his tax return for starters. you have to get along with people. that's one of the problems everybody admits going on in washington and he's continuing to attack people in his own

mr. steve forbes, elizabeth mcdonald, sabrina shaffer, and bruce jackson. john, is the liberal media kind of losing its power? >> yes, and this is very good news. what we think of as media is very much a moving target. when you compare that to 20 to 30 years ago, it was major newspapers that could shape the narrative. nowadays, new sources of media alternative sprout up every day that give us a new slant on everything. the ability of "the new york times" to shape the narrative is changing every day. >> we have one big example, the iran deal. look at what white house adviser ben rhodes did, he set the tone in the hen house of the beltway echo chamber. that deal is a deal, not a treaty that congress would have had to pass. it went through with little coverage, proper coverage of what was in that deal. and so the invertebrate state of the media is in play right now. the fact that that deal, the iran deal got passed, shows the power of the liberal media. >> but getting back to this story, steve, on donald trump, i read the thing thoroughly. it was a long piece,

mr. steve forbes. michael mcdonald, sa brie na schaffer, john and bruce. so, steve, you know a little bit about what it's like being a rich guy running for president. must be tough to raise money. >> not the natural thing for donors to think you need the money, especially after trump said he wouldn't take it, but it's not really going to hurt his image. that image of a maverick is not going to suffer, but he has to do both. he is going to have to write big checks for himself and raise large sums of money right now because the democrats are starting to trash adam and he must not let happen to him what happened to romney four years ago where the democrats defib fined them. >> john, to steve's point here, former gop campaign chairman, fred, said trump better be prepared to write a pretty big check himself to supplement the efforts. the donald says all he has to do is is sell a building ands he'll be able to fund the campaign. do you believe that is this. >> i don't believe it and i think we're seeing now how he wasn't truthful about his net worth because he c

. >> on sunday june 5th, booktv is live what steve forbes, on "in depth." mr. forbes is the editor-in-chief of "forbes" magazine and was republican candidate in 1996 and 2,000 primaries. steve is author of many books that focus on politics and economics. his recent titles include, power, ambition, glory, compares great leaders of the an sent world with modern business leaders and in, money, he argues for the return to the gold standard. he was on booktv to discuss his latest book, reviving america. >> the rut we're in today which is having profound implications around the world, bad economies lead to bad politics, we see that everywhere around the world t comes from mistakes. the nice thing about policy errors, is they can be corrected. those errors can be corrected. that is why we wrote the book, "reviving america." we focus on three big reforms. obviously there are a lot of other things that have to be done but you have to have priorities. so we prioritize on health care, on new tax code, and getting our monetary system back on track for the first time in almo

steve moore and i are doing, but i believe mr. trump is. all we're doing, we're the committee to unleash prosperity, steve moore, myself, steve forbes and arthurff to try to tweak certain parts of this thing. for example, as mr. trump said, the original top income tax rate for the individual was 25 down from 40. >> it was 25, 20 and 10% tax. >> by the way, it was an excellent, excellent plan. when we talk about tweaking, it might go to 28. might, might, might. he has not signed off on it. >> this is your recommendation to him. >> i'm not here to tell you -- we haven't even made formal recommendations but we are discussing it with senior staff. that's what mr. trump is talking about. if you make over whatever, half a million years or something, you wouldn't get 25, you'll get 28 from 40. >> so when he says -- >> that's a cut. >> when he's on "meet the press" he's talking in shorthand there. >> yes. >> because a lot of people read that and said this is a major shift. he sees the polls seeing people favor tax hikes on the wealthy. >> a lot of people are just ankle biting him to death on this stuff. look, i've been through many of these campaigns.

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