mr. steve forbes rich carlguard, carey sheffield, john tandy and bruce jackson. rich what do you make of these lotto comments of the president? >> if he had said everything he said but left out the word lottery, it would have sounded like pope francis. i mean it would have been a good liberal pitch for successful people to pitch in. the use of the word lottery is really revealing of his mind-set that success in this country and maybe even the success of the united states is some artifact of luck. it's one of the most poisonous things i've ever heard a president of the united states say. >> what makes this country great, bruce, is people aspiring to greatness. people achieving greatness. that wasn't a lottery win, that was their aspirations. >> no i would agree with part of that. i would say who he is -- we need him to elaborate a little bit. i think who he was talking about is hedge fund manager whos pay an outrageously low tax rate. in the broader context, on the whole poverty issue, if you think about it a lottery prize after taxes is $600,000. if you're born i