mr. impeachment himself, tom steyer. he thinks basically any billionaire can run for president. last week, he released his five rights for americans that looked enough like presidential platforms. here to debate whether any of these challengers should keep the president up at night, matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union. chris hahn radio host and former aide to chuck schumer. should the president be worried? when i think of john kasich versus trump, i get palpitations. so exciting. a debate between them. >> john kasich could keep it close in ohio. usually for republican presidents, they face a primary challenge, it is toast in november. i think with president trump it's exactly the opposite. i think if he is a guy like flake, i assume running as a republic, not sure, if flake or kasich runs, it will embolden him. he likes a file. as far the democrats explosion, the fact that it's so big with so many interesting characters, actually think it placed in the vantage as well. >> laura: chris, first of all i hope you had a nice thanksgiving. nice to see you. >> i d