mr. strassner's. >> budgeting around that estimate would be dicey. i think john had a slide on evaluation trade want to evaluate this. there has been a lot of data. the next presentation is on tep. every mile an hour savings. >> i wanted to make sure it is not fully about customer convenience. not only about speeding up the transit. it is about saving us money and saving operating costs. >> i would suggest we take these two issues that were suggested and be as productive as possible. identifying groups that feels this way. people who are talking about cheaters. that could be op-ed pieces and the kind of thing. there are groups representing certain communities. we have heard from them before. approaching them and trying to do something. also hearing their concerns first hand. >commissioner oka: i know for a fact if i don't have to reach in my pockets to get money out to pay the fair, it makes it easier. the clipper card has made it much easier for me to do with boarding. even though this -- [unintelligible] everybody is going to have to, i think the i

mr. strassner's. >> budgeting around that estimate would be dicey. i think john had a slide on evaluation trade want to evaluate this. there has been a lot of data. the next presentation is on tep. every mile an hour savings. >> i wanted to make sure it is not fully about customer convenience. not only about speeding up the transit. it is about saving us money and saving operating costs. >> i would suggest we take these two issues that were suggested and be as productive as possible. identifying groups that feels this way. people who are talking ab