mr. stutsman and i, rural america is not a policy. it's where we are from. >> yes. >> rural america has a disproportionate contribution to the defense of this country. when we have young men and women returning, looking for educational opportunities, we have a moral obligation to reward that sacrifice by giving them an educational experience that moves them on the way to fulfilling their career in educational goals. i don't think you disagree with that. >> i absolutely agree. >> one of the statements confused me where you said there is no requirement for students to identify themselves as veterans. >> right. >> yet we are talking about funding from the gi bill and military tuition assistance benefits. how can colleges and universities not identify that that is a veteran when they are receiving the benefits? >> think you are talking about two different issues. i think where we struggle is that there students who are on the university campuses who don't tell us or indicate in any way that they are veterans. they don't want themselves to