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suleiman is taking. but there was no specifics as to what he was going to be charged with or what powers mr. mubarak was going to give to the... to general suleiman, the newly appointed vice president. >> brown: and what do you make of mr. suleiman now, given the speech by the president and then by the vice president? >> the vice president and the president are out of touch. >> brown: out of touch? >> out of touch. >> brown: together but out of touch? >> together but out of touch. and the president is simply moving, shifting, some of his responsibility to the vice president so that instead of the crowds focusing on the president they now have two people to focus on and he can sort of move back behind in the shadow and leave suleiman to face the music. >> brown: but there was some sense that he might be-- suleiman, that is-- the kind of transition figure. but you're saying not anymore? >> he's done. he's finished. basically suleiman always wanted to become president. he was the major contender for presidency with mubarak. and now in a way he has burned his boats in terms of any expectation tha

mr. suleiman, there was shooting into the crowds -- >> no. nobody being killed by rifles or by snipers.o way. >> reporter: do you deny that pro-mubarak forces or pro-mubarak loyalists killed protesters in the square -- >> they behave very well. >> reporter: which they say they won't until president mubarak leaves. what will you do? will you give an order? >> we will call them. we will not use any violence against them. but we will ask them to go home. and we will ask their parents to ask them to come home. >> reporter: but mr. suleiman, there are young people and their parents in that square and they -- >> we will call their grandfathers. >> reporter: and what if they don't leave? how long can you accept their presence in the square. >> unfortunately, there's a big pressure on them to stay. >> reporter: just to make it clear, you will not order the military to evacuate them from the square? >> we will ask them to go home. but we will not push them to go home. >> reporter: never? >> no way. no way. and i hope that they will recognize that they are not doing well for the country. >> repor

mr. suleiman.hat they are telling us is they're not satisfied with the kind of actions that the egyptians have taken. clearly their concern is that mr. suleiman who is a long-time associate of president mubarak is slow walking this. the message is if you let this calm down and get people off the streets we'll proceed with the reforms. but look at this group they put together under president mubarak's own orders yesterday, directed by mubarak, organize a group of constitutional experts and judges, all of whom have been previously appointed by president mubarak, to come up with a pattern, a set of suggestions for constitutional reform. there were no outsiders or protesters in that group and part of the whitehouse is message is it's not that you have to invite the protesters in and serve them tea, you have to get them involved in what the reforms would look like, what the time tables. and so far the egyptian government has done none of that. when we asked the whitehouse the question if they don't do t

mr. suleiman. i entrust him with this role. god bless you and bless egypt and he would have left, the matter would have been finished. but he went out in the same old style saying the people know mubarak and he thinks the majority of the people of egypt know him and saying the things he did and mentioning the attempt on his life in addis ababa and then he said he is going to make sure himself that these things are going to be done until next september so people were shocked. >> rose: people didn't trust him? >> you know, his own people worked against him. >> rose: how so? >> i'll explain to you. not even a leakage, there was press statements by two people who were in contact with him. the prime minister and the other party. the wafd party. they made statements one in the morning and one in the afternoon saying the president of the president resigning is also there. so the streets were already... >> rose: that was the expectation? >> the expectation was so high and the speech came so low. >> rose: did he leave the script off on

mr. suleiman. >> that is my understanding. that is what has been confirmed to me by authorities in egypt quite categorically. >> sameh shoukry, is the ambassador to this country from egypt. thank you very much for calling in to us tonight. we appreciate your time. >>> we will take a break. we're back with more in just a moment. >>> back here once again. there is some non-egypt news. we promised you this next story. in el paso, texas, hundreds of students gathered today at cathedral high school for a memorial service for two american teenagers. they were killed just across the border in mexico. 16-year-old carlos mario gonzalez, 15-year-old juan carlos echeverri were visiting a friend over in juarez, mexico, last weekend when all three were shot and killed at a car dealership. juarez, which borders el paso, had 3,000 murders last year alone during this ongoing drug war. >>> a natural gas explosion shook allentown, pennsylvania, overnight, leveling at least two homes, sparking fires that kept burning for hours in the downtown se

mr. suleiman, the vice president, will then run the country until the elections are had and there will be a council that might be appointed. is that the operative idea on the table? >> look, the president is that he's the president, he has the right to put the vice president in in charge of ruling a lot of all the issues except amending the constitution, fighting the government, dissolving the house of representatives. this cannot be delegated according to the constitution. so this is why president mubarak his presence, is a stanlt for this position. so what's now on the agenda is to have some articles related to the position and the mandate of the president limited to mandate and reform the law to give... and the system of election we're going to move from the individual elections to the party list or not. so according to this, this is the first step and you must have a new president running for election within the new framework of the constitution and then after that he can ask the amendments for articles. but if we open a debate to have a new constitution totally you need at least two

mr. suleiman himself comes out of the military. he's considered one of them. defense minister is one of the most influential men in egypt for the fast 20 years, just been promoted to deputy prime minister. the prime minister who was promoted also from the military the president himself is out of the military. this is the anchor of the regime. they're protecting their interests so people see them as the regime versus the military. the military is part and parcel of this regime. obviously they may feel differently about the person of the president if they want to protect the institution. now i think the institution of the military is respected in egypt for a variety of reasons. they have been since 1952. it was really a brief period in which there was a joke in egypt between the defeat in 1967 and then the highly credible performance in the '73 war. but in general they're respected. they don't want to lose that. in the short term, clearly they play on that because when the security services were playing the bad guys in essence, they were confronting the demonstr

mr. suleiman to come on and take over as president. in your mind, how likely is that to happen? >> you know, i think it may be the most likely scenario. president mubarak has to leave. omar suleiman, experienced as vice president could then perhaps lead a caretaker government that could include some reformers so they could work out these problems. one of the problems here, egypt hasn't had a democracy since 1952. it's been run by generals. the egyptians need a period of time to work things out in a democratic way. >> nicolas burns, as always, we appreciate your insight. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> now here's rebecca. >> thanks, russ. the political unrest and uncertainty in egypt is causing economic worries, both here and elsewhere in the world. oil and food prices are moving higher and there are concerns oil supplies that come through the suez canal could be at risk. for a look at that and the latest on the u.s. unemployment rate we're joined by michael santolli, associate editor of barron's. if you look at where oil prices have gone throughout this crisis in cairo in the l

mr. suleiman, because he has intelligence capabilities and almost every country.hat is going happen now, i do not know. but the effort by the united states to bring peace between israel and its neighbors is completely at a standstill. nothing is happening. that is not an exaggeration. it is completely dead in the water. because what of present -- president obama demanded in egypt and cairo shortly after being inaugurated about ending the settlements, completely ignored by the israelis, and nothing is happening. so i think that in the future, we will see may be more flexibility in dealing with the primary issues that i have, and that is bringing peace to israel and its neighbors. the carter center will be involved as much as possible in helping to orchestrate another successful election in egypt. it would be their first one since sadat's death. we will be sending a delegation within the next week to meet with opposition to help formulate a new constitution and also to have successful elections probably next september. that may be more than you wanted to know about

mr. suleiman? guest: not right now. only potentially from the military, another statement. host: thank you very much. it is certainly fascinating to watch the events unfold. thank you very much for giving your background. mona el-naggar, can read her byline in "the new york times" as she is covering the events in egypt. the united states role in all of this and expectations that mubarak would resign when clearly he had other plans. a number of discussions in the newspaper this morning. "the new york times" front page -- "the u.s. faces a stark choice." we will show you some of those stories as we listen to calls. phil on the line for republicans. caller: we americans tend to think about this in geopolitical terms. the egyptians are thinking in terms of bread and butter issues and freedom issues. i had the opportunity to go to alexandria a couple of years ago. as american, i saw the very best. one day they took us to the alexandrian library. it is an incredible building. the real showpiece. when we went down the streets, all i could see was garbage strewn all over the street

mr. omar suleiman to oversee the transition and ensure islamists can fill any possible power vacuum. next telephone call comes from tampa. abraham, a democrat. caller: good morning. can you hear me? yes, my -- host: you have your tv volume of and that is giving you feedback. caller: i am going to turn it down. yes. my concern about what is going on over in egypt. what is happening over there in egypt -- will have enough problems of our own. this is nothing but something to get us talked into a potential motherwort and i don't see my country going into another war or if any of of these countries. we need to mind our own business and get jobs we must declare war on jobs. this is all relevant. it is redundant. therefore, people at home, starred in and stuff like that. this is nothing but another vacuum for another war that we just don't need. and i am sorry. let's declare war on jobs. let's forget about what is going on over there and we need to mind their own business. we need to police our own selves. host: thank you. war on jobs. michael is a democrat in baltimore. you are on the air

mr. mubarak said he would pass some power to his vice president, omar suleiman. >> the crowd in tahrir square grew steadily. by the time the president spoke, there were hundreds of thousands, waiting and hoping that mubarak was about to leave office. but it was not going to be that simple. >> i speak to you from the heart, as a father to my children. all those who spill the blood of protestors will be punished. >> he promised some powers would be transferred to the vice president, bush reiterated he would stay on until elections in september. >> from the morning, it was clear protests were spreading beyond the square. doctors and medical staff him out of hospitals. strikes across the country, in the capital and far from cairo, were a decisive factor. these were civil servants who walked out of the communications minister. -- communication ministry. journalists at the official newspaper issued a special supplement. it said the revolution has freed us from fear, and said the current parliament came from a rig the election. -- a read the -- a rigged election. >> we cannot go on this way. we have

have anti-government protesters here now egypt's vice president omar suleiman meantime his appeals for calm and the protesters to accept mr mubarak's pledge that he will not stand for election again and we are already seeing some worldwide condemnation of all the violence here we're getting reaction from britain france germany italy spain as well as the u.n. secretary general ban ki moon and on a friday the u.k. prime minister david cameron it criticized the egyptian government for its handling of the crisis he said the steps taken so far have not met the aspirations of the egyptian people there we are again live pictures of central cairo brought to you here on our two or more details to come here as we're coming to you live from the russian capital. time now for the business news with korea stay with us. hello and welcome to business thanks for joining me ross knapp has posted a net profit of ten point sixty five billion dollars in two thousand and ten a sixty four percent increase year on year beating expectations according to u.s. accounting standards russia's largest oil company has also reported a fourth quarter jump

suleiman. you said that you had started dialogue with the opposition party. >> yes. >> including mr.lbaradei? >> no, elbaradei is not one of the opposition. he has his own group which is the brotherhood muslim or have links to muslim brotherhood and muslim brotherhood said they want to meet with me without mr. elbaradei. >> what do you understand by transition must happen now as the united states is saying and many other countries are saying? >> it is the process starting by national dialogue which has started this morning, and we will continue tomorrow and after tomorrow. we want the young people to know that all your demands, all your hoff positive, and we promise that we will do and we need quiet time to implement these things. >> what is your fear if president mubarak was to say i've had enough? he's told me that he's had enough, 62 years of public service, and he wants to go but not quite yet. what are the concerns? why would he not go now? >> we don't want chaos in our country. if president mubarak would say i'm leaving, now who would take over? in the constitution that means t

mr. mubarak would transfer power into the hands of omar suleiman, but there is no confirmation on whetherblic a gesture he wants to make this. it does seem that he's on his way out but nobody knows what sort of exit he chooses -- he'll choose. jim? >> elizabeth palmer in cairo, thank you. stay with cbs news for the latest on the crisis in egypt. we'll be back on the air with any major developments and, of course, complete coverage on tonight's "cbs evening news" with katie couric. for now i'm jim axelrod, cbs news, new york. ever wish vegetables didn't taste so vegetably? well, v8 v-fusion juice gives you a full serving of vegetables, plus a full serving of fruit. but it just tastes like fruit. v8. what's your number? hey! wait up! ♪ [ female announcer ] you see a mud stain. but new wisk sees a particulate stain. with our breakthrough stain spectrum technology, wisk is engineered to fight all the major stain groups like particulates and oils. [ girl ] that lip gloss is soooo cute on you. [ female announcer ] you'll never look at stains the same way again. for a powerful clean against a fu

-- general suleiman is the one who appears on television now, not president mubarak, and makes the announcement. but the demonstrators still insist that the president must go. so what will mr. mubarak do now? a senior reformist from his ruling party says the president will offer a new compromise in the next few days. >> i think people will understand that it is not a tactic to just let them go home, but it is a mindset change to achieve the results of their protests. >> so a referendum on a new constitution could take place within, what, 2 1/2 months? >> yeah. between 60 to 90 days. >> but the crowds in the square aren't chanting mubarak out in 90 days. they want him out right now. incidents of serious brutality like this one, where a security van from his ruling party, rammed its way through a group of demonstrators, have made people more determined than ever to get rid of him. does the president have any other options? well, there is, of course, the army, the bedrock of the regime. will the troops move in to clear the square at this late stage? they had their chance when the gangs started moving in yesterday, but the soldiers sided with the demonstrators instead. the big

mr. elbaradei actually moved. i think what we have heard from egypt about the meetings that vice president suleiman is, frankly, quite extraordinary. if you tally up what's happened in the last 12 days, president mubarak announced that he is not running. his son is not running. he has put a vice president in place. he has engaged in a dialogue with the protesters. he's now promising to remove the emergency law which is a major opening of the door to the democratic process, allowing people to organize, speak, meet at a cafe. i think that's a beginning. the most important thing now is to guarantee the process is in place where there are free and fair elections. parties can organize. people can campaign and, number two, that president mubarak, i think once again perhaps addressed the nation to make it clear what the timetable is. precisely what the process is. i think if that happens, this could actually turn significantly to the good and to the promise of a better outcome. >> as you know the administration has been very careful in what it has said and when it said it. frank wisner was dispatched to egypt to send a mess

want to read a little bit of the statement that vice-president omar suleiman announced in a statement on state television. it says mrmubarak has decided to relinquish the offer of the presidency and selected the supreme council to take over the affairs of the country. what's interesting is why mubarak did not say this last night instead of waiting today. maybe this was a trial to see if it would apiece the protesters and it did -- appease the protesters, and it did not. >> as we look at the pictures, on the phone we have someone from egypt right now. lamese, can you hear me? >> yes. >> what does it feel like? >> i have never been prouder to be an egyptian. i feel like we were have achieved the greatest dream. we have reached lengths no one imagined. all of this from young people, my generation who everybody underestimated. we finally did it. >> were you part of the demonstrations in the last two, three weeks? >> i did attend the demonstration. i'm a doctor. i work at the largest publicly funded hospital in egypt. so i was very bis sit first two -- busy the first two weeks, treating a lot of the protesters who got in

mr mubarak's bank accounts but little is known about what really happened. last night o'barr excited his address that he was not leaving until september and why is it that he's vice president omar suleiman is announcing his departure what also happened the army stepped up the army which is largely funded by the united states the question is who is now in power in egypt and are the egyptians really free washington can hardly be impartial when it comes to power struggle in egypt it's a strategic location for the united states mubarak has been a close ally for thirty years the u.s. has been pumping billions of dollars into the egyptian military and they certainly don't want to lose that chances are they won't although the official position is it's up to the egyptian people to choose their next leader. but washington is apparently pulling some strings the man who was sort of in charge during this tumultuous transition and who is seen as a possible turn it to mubarak omar suleiman is a big cia friend he has reportedly orchestrated the brutal interrogation of terror suspects abducted by the cia also we remember that in the run up to the u.s. invasion in iraq in two thousand and three the cia

suleiman. this is irreversible, urgent, in real. finally, mr. speaker, let me talk about the release of the lockerbie bomber, al-megrahi. i have not altered my view, which i were suppressed at the time, that releasing him was a very bad decision. he was convicted of the biggest mass murder in british history, and in my view, he should have died in jail. >> hear, hear! >> the government should have condemned it rather than going along with it. there was controversy around the decision. there was an inquiry into it, and there were calls for a bigger u.k. increase, and there were concerns being put foreign -- for a bigger you great -- uk inquiry, and there were concerns being put forth in america, also. it was a decision taken by the scottish to government, a wrong decision, but their decision, nonetheless. all of the british government paperwork should be reexamined to assess whether they should be published, and i asked the cabinet secretary to do all of that. that is now what sir gus o'donnel was asked to do, and he was asked to look at three ar

mr. mubarak it's time to go. >> rose: so emad, tell me what the options are, then. i mean, what can the people... the dialogue that omar suleiman said that he wants to have... he said he wants to start a dialogue with professors as calls for regime change appear to reach a new level of intensity. what's the dialogue and can he represent the military in some kind of dialogue with whoever? >> look, charlie, there is no quick fix for this crisis. and if f it seems that the message that mubarak and maybe this military-led government is missing, the demonstrations, the pro-demonstration demonstrations in tunisia and egypt have narrowed the options before these arab autocrats. now they are faced with two pockets: meaningful change or leave. there is no other option. and if you allow me just to very briefly explain even the difficulty with the meaningful change option, it's very difficult to attain. why? because the ceiling of demands has risen immensely, very high. these people are not demonstrating to reduce the prices of fuel or to reduce the prices of potatoes. they are demonstrating and risking their life for their full emancipat

mr. mubarak. it's the entire framework of government that these people were demonstrating against. >> you talk about omar suleiman, the vice president who has taken a step back. another role here. down the road what do you think suleiman's job, his role is going to be in this new government, if any at all? >> it remains an important question. because he really was the backbone of the intelligence operation and apparatus, and the police apparatus in egypt. omar suleiman is a well-known commodity to the united states and to israel. but he's not someone who the people of egypt consider to be the type of person who they want to see their democracy go forward with. and i don't think that omar suleiman is frankly naive enough in to believing that he's an acceptable candidate for president by the egyptian people. >> you've met hosni mubarak five or six times you were telling me. what's your sense of what was going through his mind as all this was going down? how reluctant do you think he was to leave office? >> i think he was so detached from the egyptian people he failed to understand the aspirations of his people. he

we met with vice president suleiman, and we wanted him to say that this was urgent and real. finally, mrspeaker, let me talk about the release of the lockerbie bomber, al-megrahi. i thought that releasing him was a very bad decision. he was convicted of the biggest mass murder in british history and in my view should have died in jail. it was a bad decision, and the last government should have condemned it rather than going along with it. i commissioned this report last year. at the time, there is controversy around the decision. there was a congressional inquiry, and there were concerns being put forward quite forcibly in america and elsewhere about a whole release may have come about as a result of pressure by b.p. to pressure the scottish government to make this happen. i do not believe that is true, and this report shows is not true. it was a decision taken by the scottish government. a wrong decision, but their decision nonetheless. i thought it right that all of the government paperwork should be reexamined to examine whether it should be examined, and i asked them to do that. that