mr. sullivan and ms. johnson he know that people can get heated and i see i like both captions i see a lot of similarities both are attorneys by trade and voefltd their personal additional time to tree issues so thank you very much for that but i'll say i'm interested in having mr. sullivan return to the urban forestry council to serve i think because of his extensive background the people mentioned expertise as well as is left behind and we continue to build upon highs roll if he was able to return. >> i agree with you this is one of the situations again, we have basically too good candidates for one position a lot of times i wish scott wiener we had the authority to create more positions to meet both are equally passionate from a different perspective but passionate both are trained attorneys so they could look at both sides of the argument and both have spent time on the issue on their own time me the knowledge base they come from different perspectives but one of the things that struck me do we have a

mr. sullivan?, ma'am. >> in response to that recommendation the department created a security accountability framework that the department explained clearly defines key actors, their roles and responsibilities, and governing you. can you please describe the responsibilities at each of the various leadership levels? >> i think the first leadership level starts with the secretary of state. the secretary acknowledges that he is ultimately responsible for the security of our personnel overseas. beneath that in the accountability framework, the next person that has the direct responsibility for security is me. assistant secretary for diplomatic security. and i would have to say that we looked long and hard at the recommendation of whether it needed to an under-secretary position or assistant secretary position. it was a rental by the panel. the department looked at this very seriously. ultimately, weighed all the points behind it and made a decision what was probably more important is whether or not i,

mr. sullivan?> yes, ma'am. >> in response to that recommendation the department created a security accountability framework that the department explained clearly defines key actors, their roles and responsibilities, and governing you. can you please describe the responsibilities at each of the various leadership levels? >> i think the first leadership level starts with the secretary of state. the secretary acknowledges that he is ultimately responsible for the security of our personnel overseas. beneath that in the accountability framework, the next person that has the direct responsibility for security is me. assistant secretary for diplomatic security. and i would have to say that we looked long and hard at the recommendation of whether it needed to an under-secretary position or assistant secretary position. it was a rental by the panel. the department looked at this very seriously. ultimately, weighed all the points behind it and made a decision what was probably more important is whether or no

mr. sullivan?ma'am. >> in response to that recommendation the department created a security accountability framework that the department explained clearly defines key actors, their roles and responsibilities, and governing you. can you please describe the responsibilities at each of the various leadership levels? >> i think the first leadership level starts with the secretary of state. the secretary acknowledges that he is ultimately responsible for the security of our personnel overseas. beneath that in the accountability framework, the next person that has the direct responsibility for security is me. assistant secretary for diplomatic security. and i would have to say that we looked long and hard at the recommendation of whether it needed to an under-secretary position or assistant secretary position. it was a rental by the panel. the department looked at this very seriously. ultimately, weighed all the points behind it and made a decision what was probably more important is whether or not i, in

mr. sullivan so i wanted to ask a question about you previously served on the urban forestry council and you you mentioned it in the infant stanlz could you share the issues you've dealt with and why you're interested in serving from memory the two things that were important and agenda items back then first adapting and approving a recommendation to other city bodies to the board of supervisors and the rec and park department and other bodies but that effective urban trees a blue print of recommendations for the urban forestry and the second was the landmark trees effort an effort to there had been a beautiful shoring up for allen pine in the tenderloin allen has been here and it was cut down overnight by the property owner there was nothing to prevent that and there ought to be rehabilitation to prevent you know truly spectacular landmark trees from being cut down we were active in getting a recommendation passed to protect the trees i guess what i'm eager before in terms of a new term on the urban forestry council should that be the will of the committee is that getting involved in the

mr. sullivan. she was at first a little unsure. one thing george said was that nellie -- she did appear to be quite ambitious. she did agree she would run to fill out her husband's last two years. wyoming does have a long history of granting rights and having various -- the first state to grant women the right to vote in 1890. in 1920, just a few years before running for governor, there was a town hall in jackson. there were many opportunities for women to vote and get involved and to serve in an office. she would say the most important role for a woman is as a wife and a mother. she often mentioned that. it waso thought important for everybody, women, men, whatever, to be involved as citizens. because there are only three weeks before the election and because she was in mourning, she was not going to go around the campaign. here and reporters would come to her and they would some major her about issues in wyoming. that was the campaign on nellie 's part. a movingven called picture company by someone who wanted to come to the mansi

mr. sullivan? >> yes maam. >> in response to that recommendation the department created a security accountability framework that the department explained clearly defined key actors of their roles and responsibilities and government mechanism. mr. starr i would like to begin with you. can you please describe the responsibility of each of the various leadership levels? >> i think the first leadership level starts with the secretary of state. the secretary acknowledges that he is ultimately responsible for the security of our personnel overseas. beneath that in the accountability framework the next person that has the direct responsibility for security is made, assistant secretary for diplomatic security and i would have to say that we looked long and hard at the recommendation of whether it needed to be an undersecretary position or an assistant secretary position. it was a recommendation by the panel. the department looked at this very seriously. ultimately weighed all the points behind it and made

mr. sullivan you're recognized for five minutes. >> good morning, chairman gowdy, ranking member cummings and distinguished members of the committee. thank you for asking todd keil and i to appear before you today. mr. chairman, i consider it an honor to have served on the best practice panel with outstanding and dedicated individuals. our team of todd keil, richard manlove, raymond mislock jr. timothy murphy and staff, erica lickleiter and stephanie murdoch have a combined experience of 175 years of experience in law enforcement expertise. during our careers, each panel member has gained an appreciation in understanding of the importance of having clear lines of leadership and organizational structure concerning security matters. we as a panel also understand that things don't always go as planned. and when they don't, it is vital to implement lessons learned in an effort to prevent them from happening again. the panel report reflects the independent views of the panel based upon our best professional judgment. experience, and analysis of the best practices. informed by interviews, trave

mr. sullivan. you have led a large federal agency, the secret service, is that correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> you understand the span of control. so with respect for the need to leave lasting cultural change in an organization which is what i believe the panel is going to try to lead and do, where does that need to start? >> it needs to start at the top, i think. >> that would be the secretary of state so if you want to emphasis the importance of security, the deputy secretary or the undersecretary, which are considered principles in the department and that is the highest levels. is that correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> do you have other comments you would plulike to make in response to mr. keli's statement? >> there are important and critical functions going on and it is personal and budget procurement. i believe there maybe 21 assi assistsent secretary reporting. and this wasn't about an upgrade in title. i don't care what the title is. i just think there needs to be a direct report up to my former position and i maybe bias but i reported directly to the secretary. we had the de

mr. sullivan. chair will recognize the gentlewoman from indiana. brooks for her questioning. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and i'd like to start out by thanking each of the panel members for being here. you dedicated your careers, whether protecting the president or foreign service officers in homeland security and would like to thank for that work. in preparation for today i looked at the department of state's website and learned that there are reports that show, and i certainly, am certain that you're aware, since the 1970s there have been over 500 attacks on our diplomatic facilities abroad in over 92 different countries. from 1998, through december of 2013, there were actually 3336 attacks against u.s. personnel and facilities -- 336. these include things like rocket attacks, firebombing, attempted murder, sars son. -- arson, takeovers, vandalism. it wasn't until 19987 that the state department start what are called accountability review board and there have been 19 ar. abouts since that time. they have reviewed only, as i understand the mission

mr. sullivan, i'm delighted to be here. >> reporter: hers was a ground breaking and sometimes back breaking journey. >> this is where my career has come to, i'm sitting on a stool that's coming apart. >> reporter: she invited us to her new york city apartment, the photographs everywhere, and us, too. >> i usually don't let people come over unless i'm very sad or very drunk. >> reporter: joan took us back to her first days on the "tonight show" with johnny carson. >> right smack then and there, changed my life. >> weren't you the first and only permanent host? >> i was the first permanent guest host, man, or child. >> reporter: that gig with carson would lead to another offer to do late night comedy on another network. >> as soon as i got the fox show i called johnny and said i've got it. he hung up on me and never, never spoke to me again. >> reporter: but her show was soon over and so was her friendship with carson. as joan struggled publicly, her husband was struggling privately. he took his life in 1987. >> humor comes from great pain and great anger. with my husband i had both barrels.

mr. sullivan expressed frustrations that the epa's office of homeland security ohs was denying access to important classified threat material that was impeding your material to investigate the threats, the epa facilities and its employees. he also testified that ohs refused to share misconduct cases with his office, because ohs believed it was, quote, back door law enforcement organization in itself. and finally, mr. sullivan raised concerns that ohs did not recognize the ig's statue thor ti into the computer net works, denying access to classified information related to possible cyber intrusions. is that a fair summary of your concerns also with the ohs office under epa. >> yes, ma'am, that is a fair characterization. >> thank you. so i understand from your testimony today that you continue to have problems with access to information from ohs, is that correct? >> yes, ma'am, that's correct. >> in june, june 19th of this year, epa's administrator mccarthy sent you a memo entitled working effectively and cooperatively, is that correct? >> i don't recall that exact memme me memo. >> workin

mr. sullivan expressed frustrations that the e.p.a.' office of homeland security, ohs, was denying access to important classified threats material that was impeding your ability to investigate threats against e.p.a. facilities and its employees. he also testified that ohs refused to share misconduct cases with his office because ohs believed it was, quote, a de facto law enforcement organization in itself. and, finally mr. sullivan raised concerns that ohs did not recognize the i.g.'s statutory authority over intrusion into computer networks, apparently denying access to classified information related to possible cyber intrusion. is that a fair summary of your concerns also with the ohs office under e.p.a.? >> yes, that is a fair characterization. >> thank you. so i understand from your testimony today that you continue to have problems with access to information from ohs, is that correct? >> yes, ma'am, that's correct. >> in june, june 19th of this year e.p.a. administrator mccarthy sent you a memo entitled, working effectively and coo

mr. sullivan, i'm delighted to be here. >> reporter: hers was a trailblazing journey. one that day she was also being chronicled by a documentary crew. and there was joan joking about her own mortality. >> they're praying that i die during this filming. wouldn't that be great? wouldn't that be amazing? they got the last year of joan rivers. that would give them such a hook. >> people would watch. >> people would watch. >> that's sick. >> we were there. i know, but it's sick, but very commercial. >> you'd watch. >> i'd watch. >> reporter: if only she knew the attention, the outpouring of love she would one day receive. and just listen to what she told me backstage. >> this is the last show. no matter how big you get, don't forget you always walk through the kitchen. we followed her up the stairs for a show. behind the door a packed crowd half her age. joan's humor never got old. >> this is where my career has come to. this? all my other [ bleep ] are getting kennedy honors. i'm sitting on the stool that's coming apart. >> reporter: she also invited us into her new york

mr. sullivan i'm delighted. >> reporter: hers was a ground breaking and some times back breaking journey.er has come to. sitting on a stool that's cing apart. okay. she invited us to her new york city apartment. photographs everywhere and us too. >> i usually don't let people come over unless i'm sad or drunk. >> reporter: joan took us back to her first days on the tonight show with johnny carson. >> right smack then and there changed my life. >> reporter: weren't you the first and only permanent host. >> the first permanent guest host, man, woman, child. and only. >> reporter: that gig with carson would lead to an offer to do late night comedy on the other network. >> soon as i got the fox show. i called johnny, i go out. he hung up on me. never, never spoke to me again. >> reporter: but her show was soon over. and so was her friendship with carson. and as joan struggled publicly her husband was struggling privately. he took his life in 1987. >> he was in great pain and great anger. really what it comes from. with my husband, i had beth barrels. i'm still not over his suicide. i'm not fu

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mr. sullivan expressed frustration that the epa office of homeland security was denying access to important classified threats that was impeding your ability to investigate threats against epa facilities and its employees. he also testified that outrage has refused to share misconduct cases with his office because 08 chess believed it was co-facto law enforcement organization in itself. finally, raising concerns that 08 test does not recognize the ig statutory authority over intrusions' of the computer network, apparently denying access to classified information related to possible cyber intrusion. is that a fair summary of your concerns with the oas office after epa? >> yes, ma'am. that is a fair characterization. >> thank you. i understand from your testimony today that you continue to have problems with access to intimation from oas. >> as correct. >> in june june 19th of this year epa administrator sent a memo go. >> that's correct. >> i do not recall that. >> working effectively and cooperatively. >> i do recall that. >> apparent. -understanding is attempts to construct a framework for

mr. sullivan you mentioned in your opening statement one of the regrets that you have is a member of the panel is that the department of state didn't adopt your recommendations that relates to waivers read what is your recommendation as it relates to waivers? >> we believe waivers are needed and we want to see those waivers because when you have a waiver what that will do is it set in motion standards. people recognize once you have the standard you have to meet those standards. what we saw in this particular instance was there were no standards. there really were no standards and i think somebody brought up the fact before that there a lot of people coming in and some dedicated people, some very hard-working people and some extremely well-intentioned people and dedicated people however these were people that were extremely inexperienced and they were coming in for 30-day periods. they would come in for 30 days and they would identify vulnerabilities. the next person would come in and the process would continue. >> so you are saying you need an orderly process by which things are weighed

mr. sullivan, you mentioned in your opening statement one of the regrets you have as a member of the panelhat the department of state didn't adopt your recommendations as it relates to waivers. what is your recommendation as it relates to waivers? >> we think -- we believe waivers are needed. we want to see those waivers. because when you have a waiver, what that will do and set in motion standards and people recognize once have you those standards, have you to meet those standards. what we saw in this particular instance, since there was no standards, was no waiver, there were really no standards set, and i think somebody brought up the fact before that there were a lot of people coming in tdy, and some very dedicated people, some very hard working people, and some extremely well-intentioned people and dedicated people. however, these were people that were extremely inexperienced and they were coming in for 30-day periods. and they would come in for 30 days. they would identify vulnerabilities, take care of that vulnerability. the next person would come in and that process would continue.

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mr. hatch: madam president, more than 40 years ago, "the new york timeses" have sullivan, justice william brennan described -- quote -- "a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited and robust and wide open" -- unquote. the legislation before the senate shows this commitment is in serious jeopardized. -- jeopardy. next week marks the 227th anniversary of the drafting of the united states constitution. those who participated in that process agreed that individual limits requires limits on government power but they differed on how explicit and extendive those limits should be. many thought the simple act of delegating enumerated powers to the federal government and reserving the rest to the states would be enough. others were skeptical of government power and instead -- insisted that the constitution needed a bill of rights. those skeptics however were not skeptical enough. the measure before us today, senate joint resolution 19, would allow the government to control and even prohibit what americans say and do in the political process. y