mr. sullivan writes to the ambassador, chris, checking in with you on this report. any reactions? all right. that's on exactly the same day that, i believe, our ambassador's papers were accepted in libya. the day after an ied attack on our compound, and chris stevens is being asked to read and react to an e-mail by sid me blumenthal from your deputy chief of staff. this is what he's writing on the 7th. this is after he's been turned down on a request for more security. this is our ambassador. appreciate you giving this proposal consideration even if the conclusion was not favorable

mr. sullivan: and in syria? lessal dunford: we think than 2000, our assessment. mr. sullivan: i appreciate you mentioning sergeant wheeler. i know he was from oklahoma. he and his wife and four sons including a three-month-old lived in north carolina. in that particular operation, you made a comment those are operations that are probably occurring frequently. if not on a daily basis, frequently. american soldiers are at risk. i think the -- would consider that a combat operation. do consider it a combat operation? secretary carter: he was killed in combat. that was not the intent. when he saw they were running into trouble, he heroically way the report suggested spell the difference between the success and failure. mr. sullivan: i want to start with general dunford. did you consult with the president before he vetoed the aa? do consider the nda positive or negative to men and women? general dunford: my job is to fulfill -- figure out the requirements we need. mr. sullivan: those requirements are not going to be fulfilled unless we can come up with a solution. secretar

mr. sullivan. where he says to mr. toury, this is mr. steevz, says to mr. toury, "thank you for this information." it's information about his attempt to get authority to ship arms into libya. he says thank you for this information, i'll keep it in sxhiend share it with my colleagues in washington. regards, chris." actually, regards, chris stevens. >> i don't know big about that specifically. i do know that you're referring to a document, and if you are, could you tell us what tab it's at? >> yes, ma'am. i'm not certain it's in there as a tab but i'm happy to provide it to you. >> mr. chairman, point of order. >> it's a little difficult to answer questions about documents we don't have. but i can answer you. whatever was considered either out of politeness or out of interest, there was not any action taken so far as i know. >> mr. chairman, regular order. >> mr. chairman, i have just 60 more seconds. >> yes. >> mr. chairman, the last republican questioner went over by four minutes. and given that we're allowed ten minutes of questioning each and the late hou

mr. sullivan: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. reed: thank you. on behalf of chairman mccain, let me thank you gentlemen for an extraordinarily insightful testimony which will be a superb foundation for the hearing the chairman is envisioning, recommendation. truly, truly impressive and helpful hearing. thank you very much, gentlemen. at the direction of the chairman, the hearing is adjourned. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] >> here's a look at our primetime schedule -- starting at 8 p.m. eastern on c-span, josh earnest answers questions on the obama administration's decision to ought the rise u.s. special operation forces in syria. on c-span2, a discussion on ways to increase the number of americans sitting for retirement. on c-span3, the senate foreign relations committee holds a confirmation hearing for two diplomatic posts under secretary of state and u.s. representative for the inter

mr. sullivan, and ms. abernin, when they talked about this night, and what you did, that night in their transcribed interviews, all of them were basically brought to tears. and i remember sitting there saying to myself, you know, if you can create a culture in an organization where people in talking about their boss and how she reacted and what she felt, that would bring them to tears, it says a lot. and i realize that you've gone through a lot, but the fact still remains that -- and it bothers me when i hear people even imply that you didn't care about your people. that's not right. and then i sit here and i watch you and i saw how you kind of struggled when you were talking about that night and i just for one want to thank you and i appreciate what you've done. it has not been easy. you're right, it's easy to sit up here under these lights and monday morning quarterbacking about what could have been, what should have done. you have laid it out. i think you have said you -- this has not been done perfectl

>> no, it does not. >> so you never saw the email from mr stephens to - i think it went to mr sullivan, where he says to mr tury, this is mr stephens says to mr tury "thank you for this information" information about attempts to get authority to ship arms into libya. he says "thank you for this information, i'll keep it in mind and share it with my colleagues in washington" regards chris, actually, regards chris stephens. >> i don't know anything about that specifically. i do know that you're referring to a document. and if you are, could you tell us what tab it's at. >> yes, ma'am. i'm not certain it's in there as a tab. i'm happy to provide it to you. >> well, it's a little difficult to answer questions about documents we don't have. but i can answer you, whatever was considered either out of politeness or out of interest, there was not any action taken, to far as i know. >> mr chairman, regular order. >> may i have 60 more seconds. >> yes. >> the last republican questioner went over by 4 minutes, and given that we are allowed 10 minutes of questioning each, and the late hour, and th

mr. sullivan -- where the says to mr. tu rerey. thank you for this informing -- information about hi attempts to get authority to ship arms into libya -- he says: thank you for the information. i'll keep it in mind and share it with my colleagues in washington, regards, chris. actually, records chris stevens. >> i don't know anything about that specifically. i do know that you're referring to a document, and if you are, could you tell us what tab it's at? >> yes, ma'am. i'm not certain it's in there but i'm happy to provided to you. >> it's a little difficult to answer questions about document if you don't have, but i can answer you -- whatever was considered, either out of politeness or out of interest, there was not any action taken so far as i know. >> mr. chairman, regular order. >> mr. chairman, may i have 60 seconds. >> yes. >> mr. chairman, the last republican questioner went over by four minutes and given we're allowed ten minutes of questioning each, and the late hour and the fact that we're a minute beyond testimony alrea

mr. sullivan -- where he says to mr. turry -- this is mr. stephens says to mr. turry -- thank you for this information -- it's information about his attempts to get authority to ship arms into libya. he says, thank you for this information. i'll keep it in mind and share it with my colleagues in washington. regards, chris. actually, regards chris stephens. >> i don't know anything about that specifically. i do know that you're referring to a document, and if you are, could you tell us what tab it's at? >> yes, ma'am. i'm not certain it's in there as a tab, but i'm happy to provide it to you. >> it's a little difficult to answer questions about documents i don't have, but i can answer you -- whatever was considered, either out of politeness or out of interest, there was not any action taken so far as i know. >> mr. chairman, regular order. >> can i have just 60 more seconds? the last congressman went over four minutes, and given we're allowed questioning of 10 minutes each, and the lateness of the hour and given we're a minute behind testimony already, i think it

mr. sullivan: mr. president, i'd like to say a few words about the bill that we voted on this afternoon and put it into a broader context. this was the bill to begin the vote and debate on the military construction and veterans affairs appropriations bill which passed out of committee in a strong bipartisan vote out of the appropriations committee. you know, there's been a lot of talk, a lot of stories in the media over the last several weeks about the government running out of money, a government shutdown and a lot of those stories -- a lot of those stories, the narrative talked about the republican party being the one focused on a government shutdown. the media actually loves this narrative but you know, mr. president, like a lot of narratives in the media, they're not always so accurate. so i wanted to kind of give what i think is the much more accurate story of what's really going on here in the senate. mr. president, many of us are new senators here. the presiding officer, yourself, myself include

mr. sullivan writes for ambassador, chris, checking in with with you on this report. any reactions? that is on exactly the same day that i believe our ambassador's papers were accepted in libya. it's the day after an ied attack on our compound and chris stevens is being asked to read and react to an e-mail by sydney blumenthal from your deputy chief of staff. this is what he's writing on the 7th after he's been turned down on a request for more security. is this o this is our ambassador. appreciate you giving this proposal a, even if the conclusion was not the favorable for us. we'd be interested in pursuing the other avenue you suggest, high threat trained agents best. so i have this contrast in my hipd. ambassador newly in place. it's a day after an attack on our facility. your deputy chief of staff is sending him an e-mail from sydney blumenthal asking him to take time to read and react to it. and then to the best of my recollection, that's forwarded to you. so help us understand how sydney blumenthal had that kind of access to you, madame secretary, but ambassador did not. >> th

mr. sullivan: mr. president, i want to comment on the distinguished senator from california and north carolina on their important work on the cyber bill. i know we're going to be discussing a lot of that, how important that is to our national security. what i wanted to do this afternoon was talk about another important bill that's moving its way through the process of becoming law, and that's the national defense authorization act, the ndaa. you know, mr. president, like many of us, i spent last week back home in my great state of alaska. and in alaska, it's hard not to see the strength and pride in our military everywhere, every day, everywhere you go. i'll provide a few examples. we had what's called the alaska federation of natives convention. it is an annual convention we have with a very important group of alaskans. and the theme this year was heroes among us at the convention. and it was about heroes among us because alaska natives serve in the u.s. military at higher rates than any other ethnic

mr. sullivan: i ask unanimous consent to vitiate the quorum call. the presiding officer: without objection. sol mr. sullivan: i come to flor to talk about the vote we took on the defense authorization bill. i thought i'd start by backing up a little bit. last week we had the opportunity to vote on and talk about funding for our veterans and our troops. in addition to the defense authorization bill that we voted on today, to proceed to that, the votes we took last week were very important -- very important to the country, certainly very important to my state, which has a huge military presence, the great state of alaska, but also a huge veteran population. we proudly boast the highest number of veterans per capita of any state -- any state -- in the union. i'm honored to have a good friend of mine, representative bob harin,s h, he's in the gally today and he's also a marine. he represents not only alaska and our state government but alaska as a veteran, as a fellow marine. you know, mr. president, the american people want the senate to be working aga

mr. sullivan writes for ambassador, chris, checking in with with you on this report. any reactions? that is on exactly the same day that i believe our ambassador's papers were accepted in libya. it's the day after an ied attack on our compound and chris stevens is being asked to read and react to an e-mail by sydney blumenthal from your deputy chief of staff. this is what he's writing on the 7th after he's been turned down on a request for more security. is this o this is our ambassador. appreciate you giving this proposal a, even if the conclusion was not the favorable for us. we'd be interested in pursuing the other avenue you suggest, high threat trained agents best. so i have this contrast in my hipd. ambassador newly in place. it's a day after an attack on our facility. your deputy chief of staff is sending him an e-mail from sydney blumenthal asking him to take time to read and react to it. and then to the best of my recollection, that's forwarded to you. so help us understand how sydney blumenthal had that kind of access to you, madame secretary, but ambassador did not. >> th

mr. sullivan: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. blumenthal: thank you. on behalf of chairman mccain, let me thank you gentlemen for an extraordinarily insightful testimony which will be a superb foundation for the hearing the chairman is envisioning, recommendation. mr. reid: truly, truly impressive and helpful hearing. thank you very much, gentlemen. at the direction of the chairman, the hear something adjourned. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] >> the senate still in at this hour, working on the budget and debt limit legislation. the house passed the budget bill yesterday. kentucky senator rand paul and others opposing that bill and they've been talking at length on the floor. right now in a quorum call on the senate floor. procedural vote to move forward is likely to happen sometime after midnight eastern tonight. you can watch live coverage of the senate tonight on our ompanion network, c-spa

mr. sullivan: -- mr. o'sullivan: you must remember that margaret thatcher was a child of the war. any number of people will tell you after they heard the news of pearl harbor, oh, well, we have one. that was a huge background element in her thinking. and she had been taken to america and spent six or eight weeks here, and she went all over the united states. she was tremendously impressed by the technical efficiency of american industry and its advances in technology and by the general dynamism of american society. she felt very home in that. she wanted britain to recover that status and reputation. and finally, as ed has already said, when she met ronald reagan, she found someone who shared all of her essential views. and if he were to become president, and he did, then she would be working with someone that, even when they disagree, they would be able to solve those disagreements fairly easily. but on most things they did not disagree. america, from the war, her experience there, and working with ronald reagan, was a place, a country and a people whom she sympathized with and wh

mr. sullivan writes to the ambassador, chris, checking in with you on this report. any reactions? all right. that's on exactly the same day that, i believe, our ambassador's papers were accepted in libya. the day after an ied attack on our compound, and chris stevens is being asked to read and react to an e-mail by sid me blumenthal from your deputy chief of staff. this is what he's writing on the 7th. this is after he's been turned down on a request for more security. this is our ambassador. appreciate you giving this proposal consideration even if the conclusion was not favorable for us. we'd be interested in pursuing the other avenue you suggest, high threat trained agents. best, chris. so i've got this contrast in my mind. the ambassador is newly in place. it's a day after an attack on our facility. your deputy chief of staff is sending him an e-mail from sidney blumenthal asking him to take time to read and react to it. and then the best of my recollection that's forwarded to you. so help us understand how sidney blumenthal had that kind of access to you, madam secretary, but

mr. sullivan writes to the ambassador chris checking in with you on this report. any reactions? that's on exactly the same day that, i believe, our ambassador's papers were accepted in libya. it's a day after an i.e.d. attack on our compound and chris stevens is being asked to read and react to an e-mail by sydney blumenthal from your deputy chief of staff. this is after he's been turned down for a request for more security. this is our ambassador. appreciate you giving this proposal consideration even if the conclusion was not favorable for us. we'd be interested in pursuing the other avenue you suggest, high threat trained agents best, chris. so i have this contrast in my mind. the ambassador is newly in place. it's a day after an attack on our facility. your deputy chief of staff is sending him an e-mail from sydney blumenthal asking him to take time to read and react to it. and that's forwarded to you. help us understand how blumenthal had that kind of access to you but the ambassador did not. >> mr. chairman, i think your question does help to clarify matters. chris stevens

mr. sullivan and his wife prior to the murder-suicide. >> it unfolded sunday morn in upper marlboro. wilkerson sullivan was shot and killed by her husband antoine sullivan who then turned the gun on himself. the two had only been married a few months. >> reporter: sullivan was a police officer with d.c. protective services and we have that confirmed by a number of employees, but the spokesperson would not tell us how long he had been working here and all of that is a part of the investigation. >>> d.c.'s protective services protects services owned by d.c. government. sullivan used his service weapon to shoot and kill his rife and then take his own life. the two had four children, one together. one of the children was inside of the home when the shooting happened. the call reporting the murder-suicide came from a grandparent who was inside of the house at the time and there was still an investigation and any witnesses. people who had contact with the days prior to this and did they see the same. we won't leave any stone unturned. >> there's now a memorial on the steps in front of the h

mr. sullivan and his wife prior to the murder-suicide. >> reporter: it unfolded sunday morning in upper marlboro. prince george's police say tanya sullivan was shot and killed by her husband antoine sullivan and the two were only married for a few months. >> reporter: all of that is a part of the investigation. d.c.'s protective services protects buildings owned by d.c. government. sullivan used his service weapon to shoot and kill his wife and then take his own life. >> frankly, staff who worked closely with her were just shocked when they found out about it. >> reporter: tanya was a recent employee from the prince george's county department of permitting, inspections and enforcement and the agency provided grief counselors and the agency is working to provide help for the four children tanya leaves behind. >> they will be hard for them as far as grandparents and whoever will be taking the children and they'll try to do things that will focus their children for thanksgiving and for christmas and there a after as much as we can, and as long as we can. >> there have been 12 domestic murders in pr

mr. sullivan knowing that it would have been immediately responded to on any issue that was of concern toim, and he did not. raise issues about security on that day or other days. and i think it's important to recognize that when an ambassador is at post overseas, especially one as experienced a diplomat as chris stevens, he knows where to pull the levers, where to go for information, where to register concerns. and i think he did exactly as one might have expected. he dealt with security issues through dealing with the security professionals who were ones making the assessments and i think that ambassador stevens understood completely that that's where the experts were and that's where anything he requested or anything he was questioning should be directed. >> speaking of experts, who is victoria nuland? >> a very experienced diplomat. she served as our ambassador to nato, appointed by president george w. bush. she served as one of the advisors as a foreign service officer, delegated to the white house for vice president cheney. she served as spokesperson for the state department during

mr. sullivan or it was somebody that got an e-mail and they said they would pass it up the chain and somebodye the decision not to end the fest which would have been as secretary of state i would think since it's a state department led mission that would have been the first thing you would have wanted to get out but instead, if i understand correctly from the e-mail chain, your first request was to see how soon the f.b.i. could get over there, is that a true statement? >> well, congressman, the fest went to east africa to help rebuild our embassy capacity. they have expertise in once our two embassys were bombed how do we regain communications, we were not rebuilding in again in benghazi and no reason to get f.b.i. investigators in benghazi as soon as it was safe for them to go so they could start to try to build a case so we could bring the perpetrators of the attack to justice, that was absolutely the primary goal that we had in working with the f.b.i. and i think -- you know, when we make a decision on a deployment of the fest, it is not just the secretary of state, in this case there was

mr. sullivan or it was somebody that got an e-mail and they said they would pass it up the chain. and somebody made the decision not to send the fess team. which would have been, as secretary of state, i would think, since it was a state department-led mission that that would have been the first thing that you would have wanted to get out. but instead, if i understand correctly from the e-mail chain, your first request was to see how soon the fbi could get over there, that is a true statement? >> well, congressman, the fest went to east africa to help rebuild our embassy capacity. they have expertise in once our two embassies were bomb how do we regain communications, for example. we were not going to rebuild in benghazi, so there was no reason to send a fest team there was a reason to try to get the fbi investigators into benghazi as soon as it was safe for them to go so they could start to try to build a case so we could bring the perpetrators of the attack to justice. that was absolutely the primary goal that we had in working with the fbi and i think it's -- you know, when we

mr. sullivan who was the deputy chief of staff. anybody close to hillary clinton this way they have treated them. when i listen to what congressman mccarthy said and then i listened to the republican staffer who turned whistle blower and described himself as a conservative republican and then when i put it together with what congressman hanna said all they are doing is affirming things that we on the democratic side have been saying for months that this basically is a derail hillary clinton campaign by any means necessary. >> here today on cnn hillary clinton was asked about what she expects from next week's hearing. >> committees of the congress with very experienced members and staff have all looked into this and basically just rejected the conspiracy theories that are still floating out there in some circles. so i really don't know. i will do my best to answer their questions. but i don't really know what their objective is right now. >> do you have any outstanding questions about the secretary of state's conduct in those tragic

mr. sullivan, or it was somebody that got an e-mail. and they said they would pass it up the chain.nd somebody made the decision not to send the fes team, which would have been, as secretary of state, i would think, since it was a state department-led mission, that that would have been the first thing that you would have wanted to get out. but instead, if i understand correctliam from the e-mail chain, your first request was to see how soon the fbi could get over there. is that a true statement? >> well, congressman, the fest went to east africa to help rebuild our embassy capacity. they have expertise in, you know, once our two embassies were bombed, how do we regain communications, for example. we were not going to rebuild in benghazi, so there was no reason to send a fes team. there was a reason to try to get the fbi investigators into benghazi as soon as it was safe for them to go so they could start to try to build a case so we could bring the perpetrators of the attack to justice. that was absolutely the primary goal that we had in working with the fbi. and i think it's -- you

mr. jake sullivan, is e-mailing ambassador stevens. asking the ambassador to look at a memo sidney blumenthal sent you. and, in fact, mr. sullivan writes to the ambassador, chris, checking in with you on this report. any reactions? all right. that's on exactly the same day that, i believe our ambassador's papers were accepted in libya. it's the day after an ied attack on our compound, and chris stevens, is being asked to read and react to an e-mail by sidney blumenthal, from your deputy chief of staff. now this is what he's writing on the 7th. this is after he's been turned down on a request for more security. this is our ambassador. appreciate you giving this proposal consideration, even if the conclusion was not favorable for us. we'd be interested in pursuing the other avenue you suggest, high threat trained agents best. chris. so i've got this contrast in my mind an ambassador is newly in place. it's a day after an attack on our facility, your deputy chief of staff is sending him an e-mail from sidney blumenthal, asking him to take

mr. michael sullivan, committed suicide following his work capability assessment. the coroner warned there was a risk of further deaths. the department of work and pensions has undertaken 60 in the -- investigations into suicide that occurred after benefits were withdrawn or reduced. they have so far refused to publish what they have found. will the prime minister publish these counties -- findings? mr. cameron: i am aware of the case. i am sure he will understand it is not for me to discuss the specifics. suicide is a big issue. we should take this very seriously. we have changed the work capability assessment to significant improvements following a number of independent reviews to make sure people get the support they need. >> under the prime minister's , ans to cut tax credits couple with two children who both earned just above the minimum wage stand to lose more than 2000 pounds. that is equivalent of their basic rate of income tax rising a staggering 90%. does the prime minister have the faintest idea about the human course in his plans? mr. cameron: the point

mr. sullivan or it was somebody that got an e-mail and they said they would pass it up the chain. and somebody made the decision not to send the team, which would have been as secretary of state i would think since it was a state department led mission that that would have been the first thing that you would have wanted to get out. but instead, if i understand correctly from the e-mail chain, your first request was to see how soon the fbi could get over there. is that a true statement? >> well, congressman, the fest went to east africa to help rebuild our embassy capacity. they have expertise. and once our two embassies are bombed how do we regain communications for example. we were not going to rebuild in benghazi. so there was no reason to send a fest team. there was a reason to try to get the fbi investigators into benghazi as soon as it was safe for them to go so they could start to try to build a case so we could bring the perpetrators of the attack to justice. that was absolutely the primary goal that we had in working with the fbi. and i think it's, you know, when we make a

mr. sullivan, or it was somebody that got an e-mail. and they said they would pass it up the chain. and somebody made the decision not to send the fes team, which would have been, as secretary of state, i would think, since it was a state department-led mission, that that would have been the first thing that you would have wanted to get out. but instead, if i understand correctliam from the e-mail chain, your first request was to see how soon the fbi could get over there. is that a true statement? >> well, congressman, the fest went to east africa to help rebuild our embassy capacity. they have expertise in, you know, once our two embassies were bombed, how do we regain communications, for example. we were not going to rebuild in benghazi, so there was no reason to send a fes team. there was a reason to try to get the fbi investigators into benghazi as soon as it was safe for them to go so they could start to try to build a case so we could bring the perpetrators of the attack to justice. that was absolutely the primary goal that we had in working with the fbi. and i think it's -- y

mr. sullivan any who now seems to be according to the "washington post" -- so let me -- in charge of conflict and at least three countries, sent in these copper tipped ieds and discover to ieds went right through light armor. humvees were getting taken out after casualties were really high. so we went through because the mrap wasn't an income we were for rapid acquisition process, got the mrap over to iraq and i don't know how many lies that it's safe. we used an accelerated process it if we take in the 20 root that mac is referred of the f-35, god knows what would've happened. so that is a model out there at least in some areas already in being that we could look at. that mrap was already developed technology. it wasn't something brand-new that leave these were able to gt to the battlefield in a matter of weeks, or months, i'm not, but in a very rapid process that i don't have many lives that it saved because the ieds couldn't penetrate the mrap. that's an example of what we can do if we get the right processed into the pentagon. >> i would just i don't think anybody says turn back the clock

mr. sullivan who was a contractor.nd so our challenge, the additional burden we have, of course, is trying to prevent the exposure of classified information outside channels, so that's why whistleblowers absolutely must be protected so that they are induced or motivated to go within the channels knowing that they'll be protected. this is a program that is managed by the intelligence community inspector general who is, of course, independent as a senate-confirmed official. >> thank you. and i'm pleased to see that you would be supportive of that. and, secretary work and admiral rogers, i assume that you would be supportive of giving whistleblower protections to intelligence community contractors? >> absolutely. i agree, totally, with what director clapper said. >> yes, ma'am, and i say this as the head of an intelligence agency. >> thank you. i want to follow up a little bit, director clapper, with your comment about a shutdown. could you tell us what impact another government shutdown would have on your progress of get

mr. chair. >> thank you. senator sullivan. >> thank you, mr. chair. and dr. lynch, good to see you again. >> yes, sir. >> i think you'll probably not be surprised when i talk about a topic that you and i have been spending a lot of time on lately. and that's the issues in alaska. again, i appreciate the chairman and ranking members' support for our hearings out in the state in august that i think were hopefully very helpful to you and your team and certainly are helpful to me and my team. you know, when i was here last, we had -- at the latest hearing we talked about dr. shulken's six points with regard to an alaska plan and alaska pilot program to fix what i think everybody recognizes has been a real problem in terms of the implementation of the choice act. and i appreciate you following up, you and your team just recently with my staff. my understanding is that most of what dr. shulken is going to do, and i'm sure you have the six points in front of you at this time, is not going to require -- >> you do? >> absolutely. >> i do, too. i won't grill you on the

mr. secretary. senator sullivan? >> thank you, mr. chairman. and thank you, gentlemen, for your service. i think it's clear just from the testimony here and previous statements that we have a confused policy within the south china sea with regard to the built-up islands. and as you know confusion can cause miscalculations. let me just give you kind of one example of it. we were in singapore for the shangri-la dialogue. secretary reid, senator ernst, the chairman. secretary carter i thought had a forceful statement at the time. you know it, we've seen it, we'll fly, sail anywhere. and then he stated, quote, after all, turning an underwater rock into an airfield simply does not afford the rights of sovereignty or permit restrictions on international air or maritime trends. pretty strong statement at a very critical place. admiral harris, you later stated i think at the aspen forum, it is u.s. policy to afford a 12-mile limit around all the islands in the south china sea and it's been long-standing policy not because they're occupied or built up b

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sullivan: -- mr. o'sullivan: you must remember that margaret thatcher was a child of the war.ny number of people will tell you after they heard the news of pearl harbor, oh, well, we have one. that was a huge background element in her thinking. and she had been taken to and spent six or eight weeks here, and she went all over the united states. she was tremendously impressed by the technical efficiency of american industry and its advances in technology and by the general dynamism of american society. she felt very at home and that. -- she felt very home in that. she wanted britain to recover reputation.and has already as ed said, when she met ronald reagan, she found someone who shared all of her essential views. and if he were to become president, and he did, then she would be working with someone that, even when they disagree, they would be able to solve those disagreements fairly easily. but on most things they did not disagree. america, from the war, her experience there, and working with ronald reagan, was a place, a country and a people whom she sympathized with and who

mr. chairman. >> thank you, senator sullivan. senator markey? >> thank you, mr. chairman very much. and thank you administrator mccarthy for being here today. so we have a big mess on our hands. we're dealing here with a law that was passed in 1872. ulysses s. grant was the president of the united states. and it hasn't been amended sense then. and he did a great job, by the way on winning the civil war. just a great job. i just want to compliment him on that. this law may have been appropriate for 1872. we were trying to get people to go out west. colorado isn't even a state yet for four more years. we got to get people out there. we're trying to get people to populate these states. 1872, the law passes. 1876, colorado becomes a state. so the law says you get out there. kind of like the homestead act. we'll give you access to these mines. for free. now it's 2015. some people say there are exactly 160,000 abandoned mines. some other groups say there are 500,000 abandoned mines. what is the revenue stream now to put in place in order to ensure that we don't see more accidents like thi

mr. blumenthal and others and jake sullivan, sheryl mills, they have been singled out to be treated this way. it's very unfortunate. >> so they are in the spotlight, clearly, because of the high interest that has been created. and there was a statement from the campaign today questioning why huma abedin should be interviewed since she's not an intelligence official, has no authority, was not in the chain of command of what trey gowdy, the chairman, said as recently as yesterday was the province of the committee. what happened before benghazi, what happened during the attack, what happened afterwards. >> that's interesting. keep in mind we know from previous interviews that she had no operational role. she was not with mrs. clinton on the night of this tragedy. and she was not involved in any kind of policy decisions. and really has nothing to do with benghazi. i think they pulled her in, just as a spectacle. but again, this is the thing the republicans have about zeroing in on hillary clinton. now, my good friend mr. gowdy has said don't look at our words, look at what we do. well, the f

mr. bloomenthal, cheryl mills, ms. abedin, jake sullivan treated differently. i said it from the very beginning that it is very important that when we joined this committee, when the democrats joined this committee, i said that we would be defenders of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. and that's exactly what we intend to do. i think it is sad, i really do, that when the families came to us we met with all four families of chris stevens, shawn smith, tyrone woods, and glenn daugherty. i wanted to mention their names. sometimes they get lost in all of this. when we met with the families, do you know what they said? they only asked us for three things. just three things. and they basically begged us, they said do not make this political football. we beg you. some with tears in their eyes, the second thing that they asked for they said find out what happened on that night and they asked us for a third thing and that was do everything in your power to make sure this does not happen to someone else. i think no matter how you look at it when you h

sullivan? >> thank you, mr. chair, and thank you for your leadership on this issue in terms of oversight, a critically important function of this committee. i'm not sure the question's been asked, but maybe i'll ask it. pretty simple. secretary stackly, secretary mcfarland, who is responsible? who's responsible? who's raised their hand and said, this cost overrun is my responsibility, i accept it? >> sir, i will tell you that today i am responsible. you see the gentlemen here at the table that are responsible for elements of the program that came come together for the carrier, as the service acquisition executive, as i stated in my opening remarks, i assume responsibility for this program, and the decisions that i have the opportunity to make as we execute. >> secretary mcfarland? >> the navy is responsible -- >> i'm not talking about an organization. that's amorphous. i'm talking about people, individuals. >> sir, i believe we could have done much better in preparing and advocating for the right aspects of this

sullivan. >> thank you, mr. chair, and thank you for your leadership on this issue in terms of oversight.critically important function of this committee. i'm not sure the question has been asked but maybe i'll just ask it pretty simple. secretary stackley, secretary mcfarland, who is responsible? who is responsible? who is kind of raised their hand and said, this cost overrun is my responsibility? i accept it. >> today i'm responsible. you see the gentlemen at the table here responsible for elements of the program that come together for the carrier that has a service acquisition executive. i assume responsibility for this program. and the decisions i have the opportunity to make as we execute. >> secretary mr. farland. >> sir, the navy is -- no. i'm not talking about an organization. that's very amorphous. i'm talking about people. individuals. >> sir, believe we could have done much better in preparing and advocating for the right aspects of the praise to be condition ducted from the beginning go throughout the execution. >> so who is summon your -- who is responsible in your view? >> th

sullivan. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, secretary. in general pay trays's testimony he said in the middle east there are no easy actions but inaction has costs. whether it is others filling the vacuum like we have seen in the middle east and syria or whether u.s. credibility is undermined, especially when an action contradicts policy statements. i think most of the members of the committee see this as a significant problem not only in the middle east but beyond. general dunford, do you believe inaction has its own costs and and how does the u.s. military weigh the cost of inaction of doing nothing when you're presenting options to the president for options on what we should be doing in the middle east? >> first of all, senator, you know, i absolutely agree that inaction is unacceptable. when we talk about protecting our national interests. so there's no question about that. tphard to providing military options to a particular challenge. absolutely. i think it is my responsibility to clearly articulate the opportunity costs and the ris

mr. blumenthal. , jake mill, ms. aberdeen sullivan treated differently. i said it from the very beginning that when we joined this committee and when the democrats joined the committee i said that we would be defenders of the truth. , the whole truth and nothing but the truth. and that's exactly what we intend to do. i think it is sad, i really do, that when the families came to us and we met with all four f chris stevens, tyrone woods, glen doherty -- sometimes they get list into this. they only asked for three things, that's all, just three things, and they basically begged us, do not make this a political football. we beg you. several with tears in their eyes. the second thing they asked for, they said, find out what happened on that night and they asked us for a third thing. and that was, do everything in your power to make sure this does not happen to someone else. ladies and gentlemen, i think no matter how you look at it, when you have the number two person in the republican party to come forward, the person who makes plans with the speaker and the

mr. blumenthal, cheryl mills. ms. aberdeen. jake sullivan. treated differently. i think i said it from the beginning, it is very important -- when the democrats joined the committee, i said that we would be defenders of the truth. the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. that is exactly what we intend to do. us, the family's came to and we met with all four stevens, seanhris , englandone woods hourly, i wanted to mention their names. they seem to get lost in this. and we met with the families they said they asked for three things. thisbegged us do not make a political football the second thing they asked for, find out what happened. do everything in your power to make for -- make sure this does not happen to someone else. when you have the number two person in the republican party who comes forward, who makes plans with the speaker and a person who will continue to be one step away from becoming the speaker to tell you this is about a taxpayer-funded political effort to derail a campaign of hillary clinton, ladies and gentlemen that is a problem. i'm not answe

sullivan. >> thank you, mr.hair, and thank you for your leadership on this issue in terms of oversight, critical important function of this committee. and i'm not sure the question has been asked but maybe i will just ask it. secretary stackley, secretary mcfarland, who is responsible? who is responsible? who is going to raise their hand and say this cost overrun is my responsibility, i accept it? >> i will take that today i am responsible. you see the gentleman at the table responsible for element of the program that all the come together for the carrier. as i said in opening remarks i assume responsibility for this program. the decisions i've had the opportunity to make as we execute. >> secretary mcfarland? >> the navy is responsible -- >> i'm not talking about an organization. that's very amorphous. i'm talking people, individuals. >> i believe we could have done much better in preparing and advocating for the right aspect of this program to be conducted at the beginning and throughout its execution. >> so w

sullivan. >> thank you, mr. chairman and thank you for your leadership on this issue in terms of oversight. critically important oversight of this committee. i'm not sure if this question has been asked but maybe i'll ask it. who is responsible? who is responsible? who has kind of raised their hand and said this cost overrun is my spobblet? i accept it? >> sir i will tell you that today i am responsible. you see the gentlemen here at the table for elements of the program that all come together but as the execute 85 as i stated, i assume responsibility for this program and the decisions that i had the opportunity to make as we excute. >> secretary mcfarland. >> sir, the navy is responsible -- >> i'm not talking about an organization. that's very amore fuss. i'm talking about people. individuals. >> i believe we could have done much better in preparing and advocating for the right aspects of this program to be conducted at the beginning and throughout its execution. >> so who is responsible, in your view? >> the department. not a good answer. not something -- >> no. it's a ridiculous answer.

mr. roskam. >> good morning, secretary clinton. jake sullivan, your chief foreign policy advisor wrote a tick cob -- ticktock mem might on libya. this is day before rebels took tripoli. quote, secretary's leadership on libya which he describes you as a quote, a critical voice and quote the public face of the u.s. effort in libya and instrumental in tightening the noose around qadaffi and his regime. that didn't come easy did it? because you faced considerable opposition. i can pause reading notes from your staff. >> one thing at a time, congressman. >> that didn't come easy, did it, that leadership role and that public face and so forth that just mentioned? >> this is an issue that the committee has raised, and it really boils down to why we were in libya? why did the united states join with our nato and european allies, join with our arab partners to protect the people of libya against the murderous planning of qadaffi. why did we take a role, i have a long side your partners in doing so. there were number about reasons for that, and i think it