mr. sweeney saying he believed the owner was a reti changed th. and the commissioner said he would believe rightfully so somebody practicing as an engineer in the city and this type of housing falls within the purview of engineering that he would know the process. for us it puts us basically in the situation that we have had before that people that made changes to rear porches we remember them and we basically said they couldn't happen without the proper process and that unless you have a permit, you have plans which get approved in this commission. and i think this didn't happen. to that are reason, i cannot take a shortcut for the proper process on this. president olague: commissioner borden. commissioner borden: i want -- the way i understand it the only thing that is before us is the d.r. if we deny the d.r. the current project stands. so, i just want to clarify my understanding. because if you are saying that you prefer the current project as it is which is the overimproved building that is what we're doing basically. because the only thing b

mr. sweeney's words the ab e abusive practices that happened on this. and you don't have any of that. the staff didn't give you any of that. the case cries out for not taking a decision today, letting mr. grevey submit something in writing just like mr. junious did because he had the leisure to prepare for it. this is a landmark case, does section 311 mean anything. president olague: thank you. is there any comment in support of the d.r. requester? >> i am rodney grevey the west neighbor to the subject property and d.r. applicant. a couple of comments with respect to the substantive issues in addition to the procedural issues you just heard about. we have heard that the mass and scale are consistent with the neighborhood. but the neighborhood does vary quite a bit and this house, this structure as proposed, is very, very large. it is approximately 5,000 square feet of living space where month ago in the immediate vicinity is more than 3,000 square feet. the three-foot setback at the front is small by some measure. my setback is the second smallest at 6 1/2 feet. you actually have the