mr. tarantino, i agree with what you just said, the data is absolutely essential to our ability to evaluate what we're doing, but more importantly the effectiveness of what we're do. i may throw a cautionary note out. not all individuals who leave active duty are after a degree, but most are after a career. when you start looking at placement, the assessment we make about one institution versus another ibs tugs is actually reversed. that those that maybe don't do a good job of providing a degree do a great job of providing tools for a career. many of you have heard me with our colleagues at the va as i have questioned the need for our focus to stay on delivering a product to a veteran. and i will work with the secretary and his leadership team, if they need plus ups in central office, they're going to neat plus ups elsewhere. the only way i'll sit still is if the core mission of the va is to deliver that aid to the veteran service members is being fulfilled. i'll speculate, he's doing a good job because he understands what the mission is and we have got work to do. i think he would be the f

mr. tarantino and i really appreciate your coming forward today and i believe your testimony is going to be very helpful in addressing many of the changes that are needed in a timely fashion. in your testimony, you suggested that va institute more extensive oversight into how mental health care is actually delivered and funds are spent. again how adept many of the facility administrators are at getting around the current system without getting caught, how do you think the va ask most effectively perform that oversight? >> madam chairman, to be perfectly honest i don't have a good answer for you, because of the fact that the gaming is so prevalent. as soon as something is put out, it is torn apart to look to see what the work around is. i feel that the reports, the reporteding that is done is -- it's very redundant reporting, that it feels like it goes nowhere, there's no feedback loop, it's one way, we're telling you exactly what you in most times want to hear that we did. at the facilities and even at the network. but there's no coming back and rechecking or coming back and feedback to