mr. terry? mr. terry votes aye. mr. rogers? mr. rogers, aye. mrs. myra? mr. sullivan? mr. sullivan votes aye. mr. murphy of pennsylvania? mr. murphy, aye. mr. burr xres? mr. burgess, aye. ms. blackburn. ms. black burn votes aye. mr. gingrey? mr. gingrey, aye. mr. skully? mr. skully, aye. mr. markey? mr. markey votes no.

mr. terrie, mr. gingrey and mrs. myrick. >> without objection the amendment considered red and the gentleman of missouri is recognized for five minutes. >> also asked to be intended in the amendment and we didn't get that filed but i appreciate his and mr. upton's help. this amendment accepted in my opinion mr. chairman the reality that the public plan within a very short time becomes the only plan. i don't think the public, and i don't think the public plan can be a fair competitor and i think other plans go out of the system and this amendment says if there is a public plan the elected federal officials, the president, the vice president, and members of congress would enroll would be enrolled in the public plan, and i think that is a leadership thing for us to do. every study you read on this indicates the other plants would survive the competition with the public plan. i felt the debate we had earlier about medicare itself further indicated the difficulty of any tax paying competitive plan competing for a long per

mr. terry? mr. rogers? >> aye. >> mr. rogers, aye. mrs. my rick? mrs. my rick aye. mr. sullivan? mr. sullivan aye. mr. murphy of pennsylvania? aye. mr. murphy, aye. mr. burgess? aye. mr. burgess aye. ms. blackburn? mrs. blackburn aye. mr. beginningry aye. mr. scully? >> aye. >> mr. scully, aye. mr. voucher? mr. voucher rotes no. mr. goran? [ inaudible ] mr. goran, aye? mr. marquee? >> no. >> mr. marquee, no. mr. matheson? >> aye. >> mr. matheson, aye. mr. rush? >> no. >> mr. rush votes no. mr. ross? >> no. >> mr. ross votes no. >> all members responded to the call of the roll? any member wish to change his or her vote? now the clerk will report the te. >> mr. chairman, on that vote there were 23@dxvz2<)hoh >> he offered the amendment as a way to get members on the record on the issue of a public plan. this is 30 minutes. >> this amendment seeks to clarify one of the great mysteries in the debate about health care. that is where my republican friends stand on government-run health care. that is

mr. terry: thank you, mr. speaker. i appreciate this opportunity to express my dissatisfies with this rule. this is my -- dissatisfaction with this rule. this is my 11th year, my 11th appropriations season. this is where substantive discussions have been prevented. i am extremely disturbed at this rule as all previous rules this year on appropriations. the years past, if we had a substantive meritorious amendment we were allowed to bring it to the floor without having to go through a totalitarian regime where a small group of people get to place their beliefs at the forefront and prevent discussion. so in this charade of saying that they're just protecting us from dilatory amendments, they are using this power to silence us on substantive amendments. let me give you my example about why i stand here today expressing my frustration at the heavy-handedness of the majority. i believe that our country is in jeopardy of not having enough energy to power our economy in the future. if we look at the electricity that needs to

mr. terry? mr. terry no. mr. rogers? mr. rogers no. ms. myrick? [ applause ] myrick no. mr. sullivan? mr. sullivan? mr. sullivan no. mr. murphy of pennsylvania? mr. murphy no. mr. burgess? mr. burgess no. mrs. blackburn? mrs. blackburn no? mr. gainbridge no. mr. doany? mr. doany no. mr. boucher? mr. boucher no. mr. murphy? mr. murphy no. mr. rush? mr. rush no. mr. hill? mr. hill no. mr. matheson? mr. matheson no. mr. green? mr. green no. mr. gordon? mr. gordon votes no. >> have all the members responded to the vote? >> is that everybody? >> any member wish to change? his or her vote? all right. when the clerk's ready, we'll get a report of the vote. >> mr. chairman, on that amendment, there were zero ayes and 57 nos. >> zero ayes, 57ñññññw in section-- >> without obj >> i thank the chairman for yielding. the "dallas morning news" that, highlighted the troubles that a young girl had who was covered by medicaid. she had difficulty finding a doctor to treat her stating due to the lack of medicaid doctors, medication patients often grow sicker. there are of course similar storie

chairman. >> my ibm included in those who wish to speak after mr. terry? >> two minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to commend mr. polo and for identifying an area that i think is sometimes skipped over who was significant and the continuum of health care and if that time were people were teetering between being able to stay home and having to go to a facility in skilled nursing or facility during even the hospital and i believe that your focus is in the right place. i am just curious because here's how i see it -- if you remember in my opening statement i talked about how part of the pay for is for this plan is creating a savings which providers u.s. cuts and we're taking a $57 billion cut -- i'm sorry, a savings to home health care and we are replacing that piece of home health care where people go to your home and help you to stay in your home so you're not institutionalized and now replacing matt was an opt out pay for a programmer. if republicans offered a calving home health care and medicare benefits and then replacing them with something tha

mr. terry. mr. terry aye. mr. rogers. mr. rogers aye. mrs. myrick, mrs. myrikk aye. mr.hy of pennsylvania. mr. murphy aye. mr. burgess. mr. bernlgess aye. ms. blackburn. ms. blackburn votes aye. mr. gingrey, aye. mr. skulley. aye. ms. degettz. degettz votes no. mr. gonzalez. no. mr. mattheyson, no. mr. rush. mr. rush votes no. mr. shaddik. mr. shaddik, aye. >> have all members responded at the call of the roll? >> mr. gordon. >> any member wish to change his -- >> mr. gordon. mr. gordon votes no. >> the clerk will tally the votes and report. yes? >> on that vote,]b >> a texas congressman who was a doctor offered an amendment that would cap a non economic damages to no more than 250 thousand dollars b this is about 25 minutes. -- no more than 250 thousand dollars. this is about 25 minutes. >> this was an amendment that would affect liability in the practice of medicine, and that amendment was ruled not germain e, and we were allowed to report it to achieve terminus -- that. the protections provided each of the subsections shall apply in the case of a health-care provider

as has been pointed out by mr. terry, we've got 86 more amendments to offer. they're not going to adopt a rule that allows 86 republican amendments on the floor. yes, sir. >> (question inaudible). >> >> it would depend on what the use of the research itself, i think, republicans would support, for what use, we have some questions. we don't want it to be used for a rationing of healthcare. dr. gingrey has some things on that. >> we did a little bit of markup the one day we marked up and had several amendments. it addressed just that issue, the comparative effectiveness research council and what decision making that they can have an and how much power they could have. one amendment was rejected. i think we may have gotten one democratic vote to say that they couldn't make that final decision between a doctor and a patient, that they could -- and we're for this. we're for comparative effectiveness research on a scientific basis that shows best practices for different diseases and what works best and to suggest and make sure all physicians are well informed about

mr. terry? mr. terry votes aye. mr. rogers? mr. rogers, aye. mrs. myra? mr. sullivan? mr.n votes aye. mr. murphy of pennsylvania? mr. murphy, aye. mr. burr xres? mr. burgess, aye. ms. blackburn. ms. black burn votes aye. mr. gingrey? mr. gingrey, aye. mr. skully? mr. skully, aye. mr. markey? mr. markey votes no. mr. stupak? mr. stupak votes no. mr. rush reported as pass. mr. rush votes off pass on no. mr. ross? mr. ross votes no. mr. space? mr. space, no. mr. shaddok? mr. shaddock votes aye. >> have all members responded to follow the rule? if so, the clerk will tell me the vote. >> on that vote, mr. chairman, there were 20 ayes and thirt 35. the amendment is not agreed to. ms. sutton, for what purpose do you seek recognition? you have an amendment at the desk? >> i do have an amendment at the desk. sutton 3. >> my inquiry to the clerk before we call up the amendment is first of all, is this an amendment of division c, was the amendment submitted with a two-hour lead time for committee review and are there copies for distribution at the desk? >> yes. >> and sutton 7. >> ok

i will yield to mr. terry. >> thank you.the issue here is that under the exchange with the private insurance, and of course, with a government run public plan, the people that enter into the exchange, many of them will be eligible for a government subsidy, some up to 100% of the policy costs, others not at 100%, but you cannot deny that those are government funds going into and paying for a plan, of which are then depending mandates within the caps amendment, would go towards the cost of an abortion. you can say that there is a wall between them, but the reality is, money is fungible. you have to admit that if there's public dollars going in there, whether you create a fictitious wall, the fungibility of the dollars will subsidize the abortions regardless. and that is our concern here, is that we prevent that taxpayer dollars going from in there. so we can't stop what a state does or what an individual does here, but we can't stop the taxpayer dollars from subsidizing the exchange and the public plan. i will yield back to mr

society, so what i am hopeful here is that we can combine our efforts, your amendment along with mr. terrynk it would be good for our country and with that i yield back. >> the chair recognizes himself. i want to suggest mr. buyer that we be pragmatic. in the adoption of the caps amendment, abstinence program at work can qualify for funds. but this title v abstinence-only program has been a failure. it has gone through randomized controlled study, and at no impact with their teams had sex compared to a control group. no impact on the number of partners, no impact on pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases. so when it was measured it came up short. it failed and in fact some of these states, 25 states decided not even to accept funds because they just didn't think was worth

mr. terry. mr. terry, aye. >> mr. rogers. mr. rogers, aye. mr. sullivan. mr. sullivan, aye. mr. murphy of pennsylvania. mr. murphy, aye. mr. burgess. mrs. blackburn. mrs. blackburn, aye. mrs. scolise, aye. mrs. christianson votes no. mr. rusch, no. mr. stupack, no. mr. doyle, mr. doyle, no. mr. marqui, no. mr. mathison. mr. mathison votes n@@@@@@@ @ @ cracks mr. ross folks know. >> have all members responded to the call of the role? this is an opportunity if anyone wishes to change his or her vote. the clerk will report the vote. vote. >> clerk will vote report the votes. >> 22 ayes, 32 noes. the amendment is not agreed to. you have an amendment at the desk. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i have an amendment at the desk. 06 069. >> may we get the decision on that amendment? it's either "a" or "b." it's to "b." >> to "b"? thank you. >> clerk will report the amendment. >> young lady is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. my colleague is a clarification of medicaid coverage for citizens of freely associated states. which most of you may not be familiar with. i'll

the chair now recognizes the gentleman from nebraska, mr. terry for five minutes. >> i think the fundamental premise of this bill is that the ftc, the entity in charge of protecting consumers, is evidently been in a dismal failure. i don't agree with that premise. i think the issue should be how do we make sure that the ftc is properly empowered to protect consumers, and that should be what we are working for as opposed to the stripping away with every jurisdiction we have over protecting consumers and creating some monolithic new government agency in place of what already exists, so i am very skeptical of this process, or this bill and i look forward to hearing from our witnesses so we can determine if fec is capable of doing what they have been doing and whether or not this bill is even necessary so i yield back. .. >> not only cost someone to almt the homeless but cost some one to attempt to take their own life. at the age of 86, ms. balk was given a 30 year mortgage on the house she already owned and for an amount greater than the value of her

terry. >> caller: boo-yah mr. cramer. y from the badger state. >> good to have you. >> caller: am i diversified? i have american capital, agency corporation, agnc, bank of america, bac, general maritime corporation, gmr, china unicom, chu, lynn energy, linn and i want to thank you for teaching and entertaining us. >> thank you. that's what i'm trying to do, teach and entertain. if i recommend stocks, i try to put them in a context of why you should buy. this is a very difficult one for me. first of all, michael said they were hedging up to 2012 for natural gas. we like that natural gas place. really dwood yield. general maritime, good yield. stick with that for a second. american capital, china unicom, they have the apple contract in china. that's why i buy it. it's a huge position of mine for my charitable trust. american capital is a real estate investment trust and bank of america is also unfortunately -- while it's a bank but a real estate play. i think that's too much in real estate, and i'm a bull and think that real

the chair now recognizes the gentleman from nebraska, mr. terry for five minutes. >> i think the fundamental premise of this bill is that the ftc, the entity in charge of protecting consumers, is evidently been in a dismal failure. i don't agree with that premise. i think the issue should be how do we make sure that the ftc is properly empowered to protect consumers, and that should be what we are working for as opposed to the stripping away with every jurisdiction we have over protecting consumers and creating some monolithic new government agency in place of what already exists, so i am very skeptical of this process, or this bill and i look forward to hearing from our witnesses so we can determine if fec is capable of doing what they have been doing and whether or not this bill is even necessary so i yield back. .. >> not only cost someone to almt the homeless but cost some one to attempt to take their own life. at the age of 86, ms. balk was given a 30 year mortgage on the house she already owned and for an amount greater than the value of her

mr. terry: to adress the house for one minute and revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. terry: the house health care bill is a takeover of your health care, it provides incentive for employers to dump their health care plan, forcing employee into the government health exchange where they choose the government subsidized government plan. there goes the promise you can keep your own health plan. this places trillions of dollars on the back of small businesses. oops, there goes those jobs. after 10 years, the cost of this plan explodes, needing trillions of dollars to continue to fund. more taxes, more debt, there goes our economy. to china and india. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? >> to address the house for five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: -- for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> more and more americans are out of work, struggling to pay their bills. yesterday, the website showed that

terry? >> caller: boo-ya, mr. amer. >> sweet. >> caller: terry from the badger state. >> good to have you. >> caller: am i diversified? i gotdiversified. i have american capital agency corporation agnc, bank of america, bac, general mer time corporation, gm rrr, china, uni, chu, lynn energy, linn. i want to thank you for teaching and entertaining. >> thank you. that's what i'm trying to do. teaching to entertain. if i recommend stocks, i try to put them in a context why you should buy. this is a very difficult one for me. michael said they were a 16 a hedge up in 2001 for natural gas. we like that natural gas play. general maritime, big yield a shipping company. let's stick with that. american capital. china unicom. they have the apple contract in china. it's a huge position of mine for my charitable trust. here's the problem. bank of america i own, is also while it's a bank, it's real estate play. i think that's too much on real estate and i am a bull and think real estate is stabilized. i want american capital so

as was pointed out by mr. terry, we have 86 more amendments to offer.hey are not going to adopt a rule that allows 86 republican amendments on the floor. >> he talked a lot about the health care system, do support comparative effectiveness research -- do you support comparative effectiveness research? >> it would depend on what the use of the research -- the research itself the republicans would support. for what use we have some question. we do not wanted to be used for a rationing of health care. dr. gingrey had some amendments on that, and i will let him address it. >> in the little bit of markup, the one day that we marked up and had several amendments -- it addressed just that issue. and what decision making they can have and how much power they can have. the two amendments i submitted were rejected. i think we got one democratic vote. they could not make that final decision between a doctor and patient. we are for comparative effectiveness research on a scientific basis that shows best practices for different diseases and what works best. and to s

mr. gates was in his own home we should settle this down. >> you still think the cambridge police acted stupidly? >> you know, this is the thing, terry, i think this is a classic example at a time when we're struggling about healthcare, energy, we've got two wars going on that issues like this get elevated in ways tt probably don't make much sense. i think that it doesn't make sense with all the problems that we have out in to -- out there to arrest a guy in his own home if he's not causing a serious disturbance. now, i don't know all the extenuating circumstances and as i said, i respect what police officers do. what i can tell -- from what i can tell, the sergeant who was involved is an outstanding police officer, but my suspicion is it's probably that it would have been better if cooler heads had prevailed. >> our president, barack obama.

. >>> our terry moran traveled with the president yesterday, as mr. obama tried to remain focus on and drum up support for health care reform. the president appeared to shake off the setback he received from senate democrats regding his health care timetable. >> there will be no vote on health care reform before the august recess. that deadline that you were insisting on. that deadline's gone now. >> yeah. >> how much of a setback is that? >> you know, given the progress that i'm seeing made, as long as everybody is working steadily, as fast as they can. and particularly the senate finance committee, which i think is the committee that a lot of folks are waiting for. if they gets done before the august recess, i feel pretty good. >> but they blew your deadline, the first deadline. and i wonder if you feel, as you look at the polls, that things are slipping away. it seems that the more people focus on your health care plans, the less they like them. >> well, you know, terry, i don't think that's accurate. >> that's what the polls are showing. >> the po

mr. sake terry. your -- thank you, mr. secretary.our opening comments on those people that think you are moving too soon or that we don't need change or your point that smarter regulation basically will destroy innovation, those people you said were -- excuse me. >> they're not in this room. >> you say they want status quo. i appreciate that comment, because i think there are people in this room that think maybe we don't want to move too soon, that we want to be thoughtful about this and somebody else before i came here said we want to be able to read and digest the entire legislation before, and some say we want to do it at the appropriate time and you're in agreement with that? >> i'm in agreement we need to get this right. this is enormously complicated. you need to look at it comprehensively, the entire package before you evaluate it. >> to a point that i think you and i agree with regard to naked cds's, some people demonize these things. would you demonize them or do you think they actually play a valuable role that we should no

it needs to oversee activities effectively yet in a way that is not compromised, terry policy independence. thank you, mrairman. >> thank you. let me begin with one question because i am pleased that as@@ & ld be in commercial real estate issue a series of failures that some of the economic problems of the home mortgage would be reproduced. we've discussed this. what is your current posture? do you expect there to be problems, and how were you and other elements of the government ready to respond? >> mr. chairman we are watching the situation very carefully. there's a lot of loans coming up for refinance and the capacity is limited which opposes the possibility of foreclosure and commercial space. much as in the residential situation. we are urging banks to continue to make loans to creditworthy borrowers and examiners are presenting a balanced view in their discussions with banks. the others that we've taken to address this problem is that we have recently added to the t.a.l.f. program both new and legacy commercial mortgage-backed securities by doing that we hope to open up the mortgage-backed securiti

it needs to oversee activities effectively yet in a way that is not compromised, terry policy independence. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you. let me begin with one question because i am pleased that as i said you've responded to the fear of inflation because i think that you are all capable of control and i also think it's important they not be invoked prematurely with the greater problem i believe the federal reserve commonly thinks is still further on the negative side, and one looming threat we hear about a lot is the commercial real estate issue. there was a great deal of fear that there would be in commercial real estate issue a series of failures that some of the economic problems of the home mortgage would be reproduced. we've discussed this. what is your current posture? do you expect there to be problems, and how were you and other elements of the government ready to respond? >> mr. chairman we are watching the situation very carefully. there's a lot of loans coming up for refinance and the capacity is limited which opposes the possibility of foreclosure and commercial space. much as in the

it needs to oversee activities effectively yet in a way that is not compromised, terry policy independence. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you. let me begin with one question because i am pleased that as i said you've responded to the fear of inflation because i think that you are all capable of control and i also think it's important they not be invoked prematurely with the greater problem i believe the federal reserve commonly thinks is still further on the negative side, and one looming threat we hear about a lot is the commercial real estate issue. there was a great deal of fear that there would be in commercial real estate issue a series of failures that some of the economic problems of the home mortgage would be reproduced. we've discussed this. what is your current posture? do you expect there to be problems, and how were you and other elements of the government ready to respond? >> mr. chairman we are watching the situation very carefully. there's a lot of loans coming up for refinance and the capacity is limited which opposes the possibility of foreclosure and commercial space. much as in the

there we have the president with terry moran. >>> and here is the latest rejoinder from sergeant james crowley. >> what i did was right. i have nothing to apologize for. mr. gates was given plenty of opportunity to stop what he was doing. he didn't. he acted very irrational. and he controlled the outcome of that event. there was no back and worth. no yelling back and worth. there were police officers, myself included, trying to calm the professor. trying to bring this situation to a resolution. still just amazed that somebody of his level of intelligence, could stoop to such a level and berate me, accuse me of being a racist or racial profiling. and then, speaking about my it's just beyond words. i treat everybody the same, i think. that's what i try to do. that's what i have a track record of doing for the past 16 1/2 years as a police officer. again, i think it's just regrettable that the situation has gotten to this point. i've replayed the incident in my mind many times, as i'm sure professor gates has. and i'm sure he would respond the same way i'm responding. i regret and i have -- i won't say apologized. i regret that i put the city and the cambri

it needs to oversee activities effectively yet in a way that is not compromised, terry policy independence. thank you, mrchairman. >> thank you. let me begin with one question because i am pleased that as i said you've responded to the fear of inflation because i think that you are all capable of control and i also think it's important they not be invoked prematurely with the greater problem i believe the federal reserve commonly thinks is still further on the negative side, and one looming threat we hear about a lot is the commercial real estate issue. there was a great deal of fear that there would be in commercial real estate issue a series of failures that some of the economic problems of the home mortgage would be reproduced. we've discussed this. what is your current posture? do you expect there to be problems, and how were you and other elements of the government ready to respond? >> mr. chairman we are watching the situation very carefully. there's a lot of loans coming up for refinance and the capacity is limited which opposes the possibility of foreclosure and commercial space. much as in the r

mr. gates was in his own home that we should just settle this thing down. >> reporter: you still think the cambridge police acted stupidly? >> well, you know, terrythink this is a classic example at a time when we're struggling about health care, energy, we got two wars going on that issues like this get elevated in ways that probably don't make much sense. i think that it doesn't make sense, with all the problems that we have out there, to arrest a guy in his own home if he's not causing a serious disturbance. now, i don't know all the extenuating circumstances. as i said, i respect what police officers do. what i can tell -- from what i can tell, the sergeant who was involved is an outstanding police officer but my suspicion is it's probably that it would have been better if cooler heads prevailed. >> reporter: in our interview we talked about how the pace of reform is slowing down in congress. >> given the progress that i'm seeing made, as long as everybody is working steadily as fast as they can and particularly the senate finance committee, which i think is the committee that a lot of folks are waiting for, if that gets done before the augus

mr. john cooper. [applause] >> thank you. next in the private citizen category, from virginia. a lie to and by the governor to come forward. >> -- i would like the governor to come forward. >> terry dickinson would have been a good nomination in the year. he served as a dentist. he came to virginia where he became the chair of the virginia dental association. he noticed that many americans do not have access to dental care. he started something in virginia called the mission of mercy which organized private sector dentists to provide free dental care around our state. he organized nearly 40 mission centers. he has been responsible for providing free dental care for these organizations. the work that he has done has spread through other states that have tried to emulate the work. he dealt with people hurt by hurricane katrina. the centerpiece takes place next weekend in virginia county. i have served their and i will be working with volunteers with my wife. people lined up and drive from all over the eastern part of the united states. it is all kinds of medical care not just a dental. you'll save vehicles from florida and oklahoma coming to get free dental and medical care. it is

mr. john cooper. [applause] >> thank you. next in the private citizen category, from virginia. a lie to and by the governor to come forward. >> -- i would like the governor to come forward. >> terry dickinson would have been a good nomination in the year. he served as a dentist. he came to virginia where he became the chair of the virginia dental association. he noticed that many americans do not have access to dental care. he started something in virginia called the mission of mercy which organized private sector dentists to provide free dental care around our state. he organized nearly 40 mission centers. he has been responsible for providing free dental care for these organizations. the work that he has done has spread through other states that have tried to emulate the work. he dealt with people hurt by hurricane katrina. the centerpiece takes place next weekend in virginia county. i have served their and i will be working with volunteers with my wife. people lined up and drive from all over the eastern part of the united states. it is all kinds of medical care not just a dental. you'll save vehicles from florida and oklahoma coming to get free dental and medical care. it is