mr. tiefer. >> thank you, mr. chairman. we've gone back and forth over the clss, but what i want to know is to see if you have alternative figures. i know you're willing to say that your figure is under 85% and so forth. i'm going to remind you of the dcaa's figures and mr. fitzgerald's testimony was that over 1.1 million hours have been charged to the government, yet only $116,000 for documented repair work. i know you may disagree with his definitions in the categories tiered he says that's than 11% and three months later the figure was a mere 16%. but figures would you substitute for those figures? or you simply have a verbal argument these things are formulated the runway. >> mr. commissioner, we believe it's an oranges and apples comparison. >> okay. no figures. i do note that although your response today does not have any figures about kbr numbers on the subject and your six page letter response had one set of employee figures, which was that, and i'm quoting from page six of a letter, it's not one of the exhibit. if

mr. tiefer and i were in theater and you were are back early in the morning at your kbr officers. and at the time we just become aware and i think you personally had just become reasonably aware that 7100 people at the subcontractor level in iraq that should not previously been aware of. and u.s. does for some time to figure out what exactly had happened. so i'm going to put the question to you now. i think some five weeks later. can you tell if a little bit about how the commission came to be neither particularly to know how it was raised to your attention. >> yes, commissioner. or at the contract we have provided contract deliverable reports, which we abbreviate to call see roles. we give a daily personal report to the government on the status of our personal strengths across all sites and publications. we've been doing that since the beginning of the contract. procedural asked for the people doing work and that's what we have been doing. when we started analyzing the camps for job done and we got into the life-support areas the verse of contractors and analyzed there can't make

commissioner tiefer, please. >> than one. mr.is by saying, it's our job here to ask hard questions that you have a reputation as a straight shooter. you were a stranger in all of my expenses with you in the briefings and i believe you're but a straight shooter here today. so the fact i ask hard questions doesn't change that in the slightest. as to your procurement management review, which look out army contracting programs, i would put it as where the contractors may be getting away with too much. i want to take a particular example, which is a huge $5.5 billion in? , translators. specifically, is it your thought, would you agree the contractor that we held a hearing on the gls, for lack of a pmr on this, got away without a tough cure notice? that they should've gotten a notice saying, as i explained, cure to my universal baltimorbaltimore student of gls, you screwed up, now fix it up or if you are out. might the millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars of gls waste sharply? >> server, our procurement management review pro

commissioner tiefer, please. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i just want to comment in light of the extensive attention that you gave this issue that logcap iv is competition for iraq-based level services may be stopped, i want to -- i want to mention that i respect your long-standing leadership, hard-won expertise on the problem of logcap iii and its virtual soul sourcing in the back decade. just when there was loan will government officials trying to do something about logcap iii. there were a number of others besides you. but you were one of them. all right. as competition -- you're a competition advocate, yes? >> yes. >> you carried out president obama's call in march 2009 for more competition. and your own 2009 competition report speaks of, quote, increased efforts to scrutinize high value sole source procruelties. -- procurements. 99% competitive. and i hear off in the room there's an 800-pound gorilla. how do you manage with this single award logcap iii contract which went to $30 billion to reach these high figures? and to reach up to ta

commissioner tiefer, please. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. harrington, and i want to preface this by saying actually our job is to ask hard questions that you have a reputation as a straight shooter. you were a straight shooter and all of my expenses with you and i believe you have been a straight shooter today. so the fact i ask hard questions doesn't change that in the slightest. as to your procurement management review, which look at army contracting programs. i would put it as where the contractors may be getting away with too much that i want to take a particular example which is the huge $5.5 billion linguists, translators. specifically, is that your thought, would you agree, that the contractor where we held a hearing on chile us, for lack of a pmr got away without a tough cure notice, that he should have gotten a notice saying, as i explained, the university of baltimore, gls, you screwed up, now fix this or you are out. might a pmr like this every dues the millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars of deal is waste sharply? >> t