mr. toomey, thank you.n you announced that you were going to challenge arlen specter for renomination, you beat him in the polls, and then he switched parties. what are voters to make of that? >> well, i think what it demonstrates is that the only principle that's important to arlen specter is his own re-election. he had criss-crossed pennsylvania adamantly insisting he would never leave the republican party. about a week later when he saw he couldn't win this primary, he immediately abandoned the party. so i think it's pretty clear the only thing important to arlen specter is his own political survival. >> do you think he's a liberal democrat as he's been voting lately? is that who he is? you've known him for years. is he a liberal democrat as you know it right now? >> chris, arlen specter is whatever he thinks the political calculus suggests he should be at any moment in time. right now that means liberal democrat because he's got a primary challenge from the left. if he manages to get by that, which i do

mr. toomey, congressman toomey and congratulations to "the road to prosperity." >> thank you very much.ou were trailing when senator specter came out and said i'm going to be a democrat now. he was up by 11. now according to the polls, you're up. why is that? >> well, first, it's still early. i only put so much stock in polls more than a year before an election. but i do think that senator specter's demonstrated a real political opportunism. the switch that there's evidence for him that the only principle that matters is his own re-election. >> think people in pennsylvania want someone who actually believes in something other than themselves. gretchen: and the health care reform. the town heal meeting he held was pivotal in my mind and of voters, probably. >> he decided he has to be as far liberal as he can to save himself in the democratic primary. it's inconsistent with where he's been in the past in many ways. the american people are very worried about this health care bill. he decided to defend it. it's a problem. brian: when it's all said and done, your opponent, a kwongman who sai