mr. trasvina's question. it is simple. >> grant the appeal and revoke the permit on the basis that it is not code compliant. >> okay. >> commissioners any comments? related to this case? or it would that be an appropriate motion? >> i'm in full agreement with that approach going forward. >> okay >> anybody else? i will make that motion. >> go. >> fine. >> motion to grant the appeal on the basis that the permit was not purposely issued on the basis it is not code compliant >> we have a motion from vice president lopez to grant the appeal revoke the permit on the basis it is not code compliant and was not properly issued. on that motion commissioner trasvina. >> aye. >> commissioner eppler. >> aye >> president swig. >> aye. that motion carries 4-0. what is happening that concludes that matter. item 5. du get in touch with the requestors? they stated tins the tree had been remove exclude noted that the board told them a jurisdiction request does in the suspend the action that he thought this was moot and not att

mr. trasvina is correct. let's not assume. communicate, be clear and we are always trying to be transparent. i think that was a good discussion and just to claire foil that and make the request of planning and dbi. be clear. don't assume the public knows what you do and we will not have the issues where there will be lack of surety about one deck versus another. ive don't think there is new information there is no manifest injustice i support item if the executive director will call the roll. >> so we have a motion from commissioner lemberg to deny the request on base there is is neither new evidence. vice president lopez. >> aye >> commissioner trasvina. >> aye >> commissioner chang. >> aye. >> president swig. >> aye. >> that motion carries 5-0 and the question is denied. we are moving to item 6 appeal 22-0 pooch peter poon versus department of building inspection 321, 28th avenue. to ken and he amy tseng of an alteration permit. complaint numbers. first floor add bathroom and convert playroom to bedroom, office and kitchen.

mr. trasvina. >> doctor, i hear your frustration loud and clear. i can speak for my colleagues we hear your frustration. it is not we have members of the public it is disappointing you feel you have to be back here but you do. my question is whether you want us to undo any of the actions we took the left timure were here or whether you are simply seek nothing frustration. >> a way for the department or departments to respond to the actions you have taken since the time. >> no response. at all. until 6 days after my attempts to address these issues with the appropriate individuals in planning. and only after i made this appeal request this they responded. and responded with no change. in the like you know -- deputy zoning administrator tam said you node to do this you did it you are fine. you are good to do. we are done. >> if you could try again and answer attempt to answer my question a different way. is there an action this body took you want changed. >> yes. >> what is that? i would like you to

trasvina. >> thank you, and thank you mr. williams for your presentation. since i have been here i have seen a lot of the cases that come before us. as issues of communication. sometimes between the city and the permit hold and sometimes the city and neighbors and sometimes permit hold and neighbors it is apparent from the materials that have been provided there is in the much communication going on in the neighborhood. and you use stated there was no public out reach. i wanted to know what for this proceeding, how much -- what public out reach is required? and under what authorization is this requirement put in place? well, for i believe that there was a preapplication meeting required for the deck permit. and it is a common sense thing if you build a new 2 story build nothing the rear yard of your house you should mention it to your neighbors. that did not happen. neighbors were shocked. mrs. zider was at her vacation home in tahoe. and if you looked was sent to the board the neighborhood was shocks and surprised by this appearance of you know reconstruct