mr. truman. mr. truman, 100% correct, and something of the first order, it was true other people have verified that no jews were committed, i don't know how much influence she had on mr. truman, and the first to recognize the state of israel. and other countries as you indicated earlier do not have interests, they have self-interest. that is the way it should be. when mr. truman raise his hand, his point was correctly, he didn't want the soviet union to be an influence and the united states to have the influence in the release. in the release was oral. with 30 or 40 years. i did enjoy your book very much. >> and recognizing in israel, his jewish adviser -- >> very interested, i came today, you didn't mention some people i am interested in and that is kennedy and george bush i and ii. what you tell us about how they treated the jews. >> very interesting. when he interviewed several of the israeli leaders in the white house and the american secret service information, and they were worried about that. a

mr. sensenbrenner referred to the the buck stops here quote in truman's office.ere has been a pattern by this administration in not taking responsibility for failures are a voiding blame, pointing the fingers in somebody else's direction would you agree with that? >> no. taking notes, sorry. that was more breaking news as congressman steve chabot of ohio questions the attorney general who was ultimately responsible for the irs targeting conservative groups for years. dragging out their applications, seeking tax exempt status for months and months and months and in some cases for three years. that has a chilling effect. that doesn't inspire you to keep pressing for your tax exempt status and in fact it did chill a lot of organizations and led 63% of them to either abandon applications for sit and wait for months and months and months. the doj is now in charge of investigating this controversy at the irs but already we are hearing suggestions that this may need a special prosecutor because if there is a link to the white house or elsewhere, can we trust the attorne

mr. president i will call roll. >> thank you. >> president mazzucco. >> present. >> vice president marshall. >> here. >> commissioner chan. >> present. >> commissioner kingsley. >> present. >> commissioner truman. >> here. >> commissioner loftus. >> here. >> we have a quorum and with us this evening we have the deputy chief and bethany from the occ. >> please call item one. >> item one consent calendar and request to accept $5,000 from ms. karen fireman to be used by the sfpd mounted unit. >> commissioners, you have in your packet a memo on the donation by karen fireman for our mounted unit. any questions or concerns? it's great. . >> is there any public comment? hearing none public comment is now -- do i have a motion. >> moved. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> please call line item two. >> item two is general public comment. the agenda is welcome to address the commission on items not on the agenda but within the purview of the commission and shall address the comments to the whole and not individual commissioners or personnel. during public comment neither police nor occ or commissioners do not need to give a reresponse and refrain from comments and discussion. please limit your comme

mr. cole and a few other people go to the truman library and take a picture of the thing that he had on his desk that said, the buck stops here. >> we also learned that there is no paper trail, no paper record of the attorney general's decision to take himself out or as they say, recuse himself from the ap case. >> shep: the hearing divided, as everything is right along political lines. >> predictably so. senior democrat slammed the republican leadership as hypocrites. >> this committee's republican leadership demanded aggressive investigation of press leaks, accusing the administration itself of orchestrating those leaks. then members of this committee wanted reporters subpoenaed, put in front of grand juries and potentially grailed for contempt. now, of course, it is convenient to attack the attorney general for being too aggressive. >> earlier today the white house calling on democratic senator charles schumer to resurrect this pressure shield legislation. at the hearingness we heard support from democrats who backed the move. >> this inconsistency on the part of mirin colleagues should

mr. cole and a few other people go to the truman library and take a picture of the thing he had on his deskthe buck stops here? because we don't know where the buck stops. and i think to do adequate oversight we better find out and we better find out how happened. >> and it's not just republicans. some democrats are criticizing the attorney general as well. the ranking member, the top democrat on the committee, saying that he was deeply troubled by these reports about the associated press investigation. ashley, back to you. ashley: very good indeed. peter barnes, thank you so much. tracy: all right, now onto the other big story. new developments in the irs targeting of conservative groups. president obama is expected to meet with treasury officials on that matter today. rich edson is live from the white house with the latest. hey, rich. >> the white house says the treasury secretary tim geithner among other -- jack lew, will be here from the white house that steps should happen at the internal revenue service after the inspector general report was issued last night, basically saying they de

mr. sensenbrenner referred a little while ago to the truman's buck stops here reference. i'll conclude because i'm almost out of time. by saying i believe there's been a pattern by this administration in not taking responsibility for failures, avoiding blame, pointing the fingers in somebody else's direction. would you agree with that? >> no. >> i thought you might say that. i think a lot of people do, including myself, and i think a lot of members of this committee. we might be divided. but these are very significant things which have occurred here. i strongly encourage this administration to get out front, get all the facts out, let the chips fall where they may. i think that's in the best interest of the administration. i think it's in the best interest of the country. i yield back the balance of my time. >> i agree with the last part of your statement. it is one of the reasons why i ordered the investigation last friday because it seemed to me that there was the need for a review given the potential criminal investigations that exist that the justice department needed

mr. cole and a few other people, go to the truman library and take the picture of the thing that he had ons death, his desk that said the book -- the buck stops here. we do not know where the buck stops very i think to do adequate oversight, with better find out, and find how this happened. i yield back. >> i think the gentleman. the chair recognizes the general from new york. >> i want to speak to three subjects in the time that i have. i have no doubt that we have already been hearing much about the department of justice probe ap records. we should with this in contextand remember that less than a year ago, this committee leadership demanded investigation into leaks accusing the administration of sharing those leaks. then, members of this committee wanted to report subpoenas put in front of grand juries, and jail for contemporary of course it is now -- and be jailed for contempt. they should not distract us from legitimate questions where these congressional oversight, including whether the espionage act has been inappropriately used, whether there is a need for a press shield, and congr

truman. i think this whole thing about benghazi is very clear. if you remember back to the second presidential debate when mrey was debating mr. obama, he did not bring up the question of benghazi. it was my understanding that he received an intelligence agency briefing prior to that debate. most of the material concerning benghazi was classified. i was wondering if that was the reason he did not bring it up because he no was classified. as far as what actually happened, i think that is abundantly clear mr. obama got beat in the first debate and could not take another beating. they tried to cover it up and make it look like it was something other than what it really was. it was because he did not need to get creamed in another debate. he lied about it and it is that clear. definitely, we see that discussion in the hearing yesterday with the other side of the aisle talking about this classified aspect. most of the stuff was not classified. it has been put under the shroud by this administration. out wass narrative put a deceitful like. it misled the american public. it does not match up and that was clear fro