mr. trumka, what has this done to the union movement in america? has this galvanized a lot of workers maybe you haven't seen in the past? >> this is growing. we're together like we've never been together before. they understand, he wants these people to pay for tax cuts for the rich. we've already given too much. it's brought us all together and we're all saying that the economy works fine for the top 1%, but it needs to work for us and for middle class america and we won't settle for less until it does. >> richard trumka, herald schaitberger, governor strickland, thanks for joining us tonight. i appreciate your time. remember to answer tonight's question on the bottom of the screen and share thoughts on twitter using #edshowissue2 i'll tell you why republicans think shared sacrifice doesn't apply to them. >>> and in other big news today, a fourth woman accusing herman cain of sexual harassment goes public. she's giving specifics and she wants the republican front-runner to come clean and fess up. this is "the ed show" live in ohio. stay with us. [

joining me tonight is richard trumka, harold shade burger of the international association of firefighters and former governor of the state of ohio mr. ted strickland. >> gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. governor, let's visit with you first. i appreciate you being here. why didn't ohio see this coming in 2010? what was it? where was the disconnect? >> people were hurting and are hurting, and i understand that. we all understand that. i met a young man on the sidewalk walking here this evening who is homeless and hungry, and across this country people have lost their jobs. let me tell you, ed, the firefighters and the nurses and the teachers and the police officers didn't cause this dilemma. it was human greed, and it emanated from wall street. and now that these good folks surrounding us and across our state are being made scapegoats, and we're putting a stop to it in ohio and we want to send a message across this country that they pushed us as far as they can push us, and they're going to be pushing back. >> senate bill 5. i mean, is it a deliberate attempt to undermine the unions and organization and really knock down