mr. trumka. david: let's just take one of the ways in which you can have different opinions on helping the american worker. mr. trumka is very much against right to work laws. president trump says he is 100% in favor of those laws. president trump is also against this enforced raising of the minimum wage to $15 an hour that mr. trumka is for. and of course scott walker, president trump is a big defender of scott walker who mr. trumka thinks is an enemy of public sector unions. on those points, i don't think there is any room for agreement, do you? >> well maybe not, but those aren't the only points and they aren't the main points. the main points that in my view is how do you get more americans back into the workforce and employed? that is the real objective for the country and i'm sure that is an important objective to mr. trumka as well. david: talk about objectives for the country, one of those objectives, getting better trade deals and particular issues that our trade partners violated certai