van hollen: certainly. mr. dreier: what was the vote in the house on that budget that my friend was just talking about? mr. van hollen: i don't remember the exact vote but it passed, mr. chairman. it was deemed, there was never a vote in this institution -- mr. dreier: i thank my friend for yielding. mr. van hollen: there was a vote on the resolution in the house. if you want to talk about deeming, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is -- that 30 seconds came from the chairman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. van hollen: i ask reckons because he yielded to me. i took three seconds and he yielded me 30. i thank you, mr. chairman. deeming. what we're doing today is the ultimate example of deeming. we are passing a resolution that deems in advance the passage of a number that we don't even know and it's going to be decided by one person. we are deeming that individual all the authority and the shame of it is that that's a process that i think we all recognize as flawed and yet this is deeming on

mr. van hollen: i yield briefly. mr. dreier: let me say to the commission, i think it's very important to note that they argue that there is a reduction to 26% as the top corporate rate and 23% as the p -- mr. van hollen: reclaiming my time. they did that as part of a whole tax reform package that closed the tax loopholes that your proposal would open. the speaker pro tempore:he gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from new york. ms. slaughter: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask members on both sides of the aisle to vote no on the previous question so that we can take serious action described by mr. van hollen to decrease the deficit rather than simply make it easier to give tax breaks to billionaires. and, mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to insert the text of the amendment in the record immediately prior to the vote on the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. ms. slaughter: mr. speaker, i urge a no vote on the previous question and on the rule and i yield back the balance o

mr. van hollen. mr. van hollen: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself four minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for fourth down four minutes. mr. van hollen: thank you, mr. speaker. i hope the tenure and substance of the debate we have in this house over the next few days will be worthy of the american people and reflect well on this congress. many of us believe we should focus our efforts here today on measures to help people put back to work rather than on a bill that takes away important patient and consumer protections. and we don't think it makes a whole lot of sense to debate a bill that thankfully will go nowhere in the senate and would certainly be vetoed by the president. however, the republican majority is entitled to use its time here as it chooses and while we believe we should be doing that focused on jobs, perhaps this debate will clear up many of the myths and misinformation about the health care law that was signed by president obama. i'm interested to hear my colleagues say that they can identify with all the problems in the h

van hollen: certainly. mr. dreier: what was the vote in the house on that budget that my friend was just talking about? mr. van hollen: i don't remember the exact vote but it passed, mr. chairman. it was deemed, there was never a vote in this institution -- mr. dreier: i thank my friend for yielding. mr. van hollen: there was a vote on the resolution in the house. if you want to talk about deeming, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is -- that 30 seconds came from the chairman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. van hollen: i ask reckons because he yielded to me. i took three seconds and he yielded me 30. i thank you, mr. chairman. deeming. what we're doing today is the ultimate example of deeming. we are passing a resolution that deems in advance the passage of a number that we don't even know and it's going to be decided by one person. we are deeming that individual all the authority and the shame of it is that that's a process that i think we all recognize as flawed and yet this is deeming on

mr. van hollen: i yield briefly. mr.dreier: let me say to the commission, i think it's very important to note that they argue that there is a reduction to 26% as the top corporate rate and 23% as the top -- mr. van hollen: reclaiming my time. they did that as part of a whole tax reform package that closed the tax loopholes that your proposal would open. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from new york. ms. slaughter: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask members on both sides of the aisle to vote no on the previous question so that we can take serious action described by mr. van hollen to decrease the deficit rather than simply make it easier to give tax breaks to billionaires. and, mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to insert the text of the amendment in the record immediately prior to the vote on the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. ms. slaughter: mr. speaker, i urge a no vote on the previous question and on the rule and i yield back the balanc

mr. van hollen. mr. van hollen: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself four minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for fourth down four minutes. mr. van hollen: thank you, mr. speaker. i hope the tenure and substance of the debate we have in this house over the next few days will be worthy of the american people and reflect well on this congress. many of us believe we should focus our efforts here today on measures to help people put back to work rather than on a bill that takes away important patient and consumer protections. and we don't think it makes a whole lot of sense to debate a bill that thankfully will go nowhere in the senate and would certainly be vetoed by the president. however, the republican majority is entitled to use its time here as it chooses and while we believe we should be doing that focused on jobs, perhaps this debate will clear up many of the myths and misinformation about the health care law that was signed by president obama. i'm interested to hear my colleagues say that they can identify with all the problems in the h

mr. van hollen. mr. van hollen: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself four minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for fourth down four minutes. mr. van hollen: thank you, mr. speaker. i hope the tenure and substance of the debate we have in this house over the next few days will be worthy of the american people and reflect well on this congress. many of us believe we should focus our efforts here today on measures to help people put back to work rather than on a bill that takes away important patient and consumer protections. and we don't think it makes a whole lot of sense to debate a bill that thankfully will go nowhere in the senate and would certainly be vetoed by the president. however, the republican majority is entitled to use its time here as it chooses and while we believe we should be doing that focused on jobs, perhaps this debate will clear up many of the myths and misinformation about the health care law that was signed by president obama. i'm interested to hear my colleagues say that they can identify with all the problems in the h

mr. van hollen: i yield briefly. mr. dreier: let me say to the commission, i think it's very important to note that they argue that there is a reduction to 26% as the top corporate rate and 23% as the top -- mr. van hollen: reclaiming my time. they did that as part of a whole tax reform package that closed the tax loopholes that your proposal would open. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from new york. ms. slaughter: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask members on both sides of the aisle to vote no on the previous question so that we can take serious action described by mr. van hollen to decrease the deficit rather than simply make it easier to give tax breaks to billionaires. and, mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to insert the text of the amendment in the record immediately prior to the vote on the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. ms. slaughter: mr. speaker, i urge a no vote on the previous question and on the rule and i yield back the balan

van hollen: certainly. mr. dreier: what was the vote in the house on that budget that my friend was just talking about? mr. van hollen: i don't remember the exact vote but it passed, mr. chairman. it was deemed, there was never a vote in this institution -- . dreier: i thank my friend for yielding. mr. van hollen: there was a vote on the resolution in the house. if you want to talk about deeming, wa, whoa, whoa, this is -- that 30 seconds came from the chairman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. van hollen: i ask reckons because he yielded to me. i took three seconds and he yielded me 30. i thank you, mr. chairman. deeming. what we're doing today is the ultimate example of deeming. we are passing a resolution that deems in advance the passage of a number that we don't even know and it's going to be decided by one person. we are deeming that individual all the authority and the shame of it is that that's a process that i think we all recognize as flawed and yet this is deeming on ster

mr. van hollen. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and mr. van hollen. i am new at this and as i go through the learning process to see all the neat things going on out there, i ask folks to bring material to me so i can understand more about what was going on today, why the chairman had been introduced this resolution today, and how folks dealt with that in years past, and folks tell us we never had to deal with this in years past, we never had a budget committee that failed to come through on behalf of the congress. we have never had a situation where the rules committee had to step in and make that correction here at the very beginning of the year. of one associate myself with the thinking of mr. mcgovern's remarks, we're doing the same thing over and over again. i think that is right. we were here last week to work on the health care bill because my constituents said, roger, go to washington and fix that health care bill. get that repeal this your first job. my constituents said, how can we operate in this country without a budget? we know that mr. r

mr. van hollen: i thank my friend. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. van hollen: and my friend from massachusetts talked about this earlier, whether it's $100 billion or $80 billion or $20 billion, those all have consequences because on the other side of the aisle when we say, well, are you going to be cutting research to find cures and treatments for cancer or diabetes? no, we're not going to cut that. are you going to cut the f.b.i. agents involved in antiterrorism efforts? no, we would never want to cut that. . the magnitude and the negative impact will be determined by what, the number in this bill, a number we don't vote on that you're giving the chairman of the budget committee the sole authority to pick out of a hat. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. plo mr. dreier: i yield myself 30 seconds to respond to my friend. unfortunately the gun by -- begun by generating the debate to the sky is falling mentality, we're going to be scutting n.i.h. funding, gutting f.b.i. agents. we're beginning the process of putting our fiscal hous

mr. van hollen to complete. mr. davis. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i want to thank you and the ranking members of the committee for the opportunity to meet here and testify in favor of making an order to the amendment. an amendment that bennett thompson of mississippi and a number of us have co-sponsored. and i guess as i was thinking of the amendment, representative thompson as well as myself as well as former member eva clayton all have had district experience with community health centers. all of us either worked or on the boards of the community health centers. and so we know first hand, the tremendous impact that these programs have had throughout america. as a matter of fact, they were originally part of the old oeo programs that started in the 1960s as part of the war on poverty. i've had the good fortune to visit them all over the country. big networks. they are the most effective way of providing primary health services to large numbers of low income people this country has ever known. there is nothing this country has developed that has bee

mr. van hollen from maryland for five minutes. ms. delauro from connecticut for five minutes. ms. woolsey from california for five minutes. mr. mcdermott from washington for five minutes. ms. kaptur from ohio for five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. for what purpose does the gentleman from michigan, mr. kildee, rise? without objection. mr. kildee: mr. speaker, today we will be saying farewell to the pages who have served this house so well, they're standing in back of the chambers here now, and we wish to thank you for your service. i've been on the page board for about 30 years. speaker tip o'neill appointed me to this board and this has been a tremendous group of pages. you've worked hard, yufpke worked well and you've worked -- you've worked well and you've worked honorably. you've seen history. you've seen a change of party control of this house. you've seen our joyce -- joys and our sorrows. you witnessed the sorrow we all experienced and you experienced when a member of this house was attacked back in her district. there is a program called close up where

mr. van hollen: i thank my friend. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. van hollen: and my friend from massachusetts talked about this earlier, whether it's $100 billion or $80 billion or $20 billion, those all have consequences because on the other side of the aisle when we say, well, are you going to be cutting research to find cures and treatments for cancer or diabetes? no, we're not going to cut that. are you going to cut the f.b.i. agents involved in antiterrorism efforts? no, we would never want to cut that. . the magnitude and the negative impact will be determined by what, the number in this bill, a number we don't vote on that you're giving the chairman of the budget committee the sole authority to pick out of a hat. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. plo mr. dreier: i yield myself 30 seconds to respond to my friend. unfortunately the gun by -- begun by generating the debate to the sky is falling mentality, we're going to be scutting n.i.h. funding, gutting f.b.i. agents. we're beginning the process of putting our fiscal hous

mr. van hollen: i thank my friend. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. n hollen: and my friend from massachusetts talked about this earlier, whether it's $100 billion or $80 billion or $20 billion, those all have consequences because on the other side of the aisle when we say, well, are you going to be cucucucucuttg research to find and treatments for cancer or diabetes? no, we're not going to cut that. are you going to cut the f.b.i. agents involved in antiterrorism efforts? no, we would never want to cut that. . the magnitude and the negative impact will be determined by what, the number in this bill, a number we don't vote on that you're giving the chairman of the budget committee the sole authority to pick out of a hat. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. plo mr. dreier: i yield myself 30 seconds to respond to my friend. unfortunately the gun by -- begun by generating the debate to the sky is falling mentality, we're going to be scutting n.i.h. funding, gutting f.b.i. agents. we're beginning the process of putting our fiscal house

mr. van hol be from -- mr. van hollen from maryland. for what purpose does the gentleman from connecticut seek recognition? >> address the house for five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentlewoman is recognized. ms. delauro: mr. speaker, words cannot describe the depths of my grief as i rise today. to pay tribute to the life of my former staffer and dear friend, ashley westbrook, who was taken from in a tragic accident last week. to say that she was taken from us too soon is an understatement. she worked for me for seven years, first as my press secretary and later my chief of staff. however she was much more than a former staffer. she was family. ashley was quite simply remarkable. a native of north carolina she was known for her soft southern accent, bright smile, professionalism and determination to get things done. after graduating from the university of north carolina she first made her mark working for governor jim hunt and then attorney general mike easily. combining politics, policy and communication. s

mr. van hollen: my time has expire mr. dreier: will the gentleman yield to me to respond the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from calornia is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i yield 10 seconds. mr. dreier: ihank the gentleman for yielding. clearly the budget that expired the end of the congress, we know that very well and look forward to numbers coming out from both your new committee, the budget committee and the appropriations committee. mr. mcgovern: 24 hours. will you have a number tomorrow? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. mr. dreier: madam speaker, with that i'm very happy to yield one minute to my good friend from the harrison township of michigan, ms. miller. the speakepro tempore: the gentlewoman from michigan is recognized for one minute. ms. miller: i thank the gentleman for yielding. madam speaker, this past election was certainly a historic pivot for our nation. the american people demanded both the president of the united states as well as the congress chart a w course. because they unders

mr. van hollen. >> i do not have a question for mr. n hollen, but it appears to me that there has been an awful lot of emphasis placed on the fact that the cbo is an independent, non-partisan referee as you referred to about 10 times in your comments. if my understanding is correct, and i am happy for you to correct me if it needs to be, is that the number that will be filled in as the number that is coming from the cbo that has been faulted -- vaunted as the independent referee. their number will form the basis of the number used year. >> as you know, we are awaiting that number. a commitment was made that we proceed with the resolution. that is what we are so doing. the definition for actual spending is spending that relates to defense, military construction, the v.a., and homeland's security. it is spending beyond those areas that we are discussing. we are not betting programs -- getting -- gutting programs. >> mr. mcgovern? >> thank you for the clarification of the definition of. by the definition you just gave, social security is o

mr. van hollen. the chair: the gentleman from maryland. mr. van hollen: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank my colleague. i rise in strong opposition to this measure which along with the supreme court's radical decision in citizens united takes our nation's campaign finance system in precisely the wrong direction. less transparency and less information for the voters. americans from across the political spectrum, democrats, republicans, independents, want less special interest money in politics, not more. they want clean, transparent and competitive elections and campaigns where candidates, those of us in this room, presidential candidates, rise and fall based on the quality of their ideas, the strength of their arguments and their ability to attract support from the votes that are they seek to represent. what they don't want, what they don't want are campaigns decided by how much secret money flows into an election from secret outside groups. and they will no longer tolerate, i believe, those politicians turning around and saying to those citizens, you have no right to know who's p

mr. van hollen. that will close at the hearing portion of this measure. >> i moved that the committee report the resolution with a favorable recommendation. >> arthur amendments? >> i move to amend the resolution. my amendment makes changes to clarify the intent of the resolution. it clarifies we will reduce spending to 2008 levels or less. second, it strikes the terms from the resolution. we are going to reduce spending to 2008 levels or less. >> you have heard the gentleman's motion. at the outset, let me say that this it does the things that we outlined at the beginning. it eliminates the word " transition" and the shared goal we seem to have of inspiring to get to an aggregate level that would be below the 2008 levels which i think is important. some areas we may not be able to do that. this begins the process of moving us in a very positive direction. i believe these clarifying provisions are helpful. i had a discussion yesterday with the speaker and others in our leadership and i believe a very

mr. van hollen left off. that is what the president had ognized for five minutes. mr. roskam: thank you, mr. speaker. the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. please remove all conversations to the clock ream -- cloakroom or somewhere off the floor. the gentleman may proceed. mr. roskam: thank you, mr. speaker. there's really no sense of irony here, is there? that the proponent, the self-described proponent of transparency and openness in the twinkling of an eye before a vote on an adjournment day come over and say, there's your motion to recommit? this was posted online, mr. speaker, on thursday of last week. the proponents, and this is a modified open rule, the proponents have had an opportunity, mr. speaker, on friday to file a motion, to file an amendment, on monday to file an amendment, on tuesday to file an amendment, but the very described people who are now cloaking themselves in a mantle of openness and transparency say, there you go. moments ago. ok, that's the program. i get the program. what is this ultimately all about?

mr. van hollen. ms. nome. mr. george miller. mr. tim scott. ms. del oro. mr. walden. mr. cuayar. mr.dreier. ms. wasserman-schulz. mr. roskam. ms. bass. the members of the ohio delegation -- ms. kaptur, mr. latourette, mr. kucinich, mr. ryan, mr. turner. mr. jordan. ms. fudge. mr. shabat. mr. gibbs. mr. johnson. mr. stuyvants. the committee will retire from the chamber to escort the speaker-elect to the chair. the 112 congress as the u.s. house select john boehner as the 61st speaker of the house. >> or speaker-elect, john boehner, a representative from ohio. [cheers and applause] [applause] [applause] [applause] [cheers and applause] [applause] [cheers and applause] >> it is a high honor to welcome all members of congress and their families to the house of representatives. to the members -- new members and their families, it is a special welcome and congratulations. we all wish you great success. [applause] congratulations to you. we all come here to represent our constituents. our respect for each other is founded in our respect for the people that we represent. this month, we will

mr. van hollen from maryland for five minutes. ms. delauro from connecticut for five minutes. ms. woolsey from california for five minutes. mr. mcdermott from washington for five minutes. ms. kaptur from ohio for five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. for what purpose does the gentleman from michigan, mr. kildee, rise? without objection. mr. kildee: mr. speaker, today we will be saying farewell to the pages who have served this house so well, they're standing in back of the chambers here now, and we wish to thank you for your service. i've been on the page board for about 30 years. speaker tip o'neill appointed me to this board and this has been a tremendous group of pages. you've worked hard, yufpke worked well and you've worked -- you've worked well and you've worked honorably. you've seen history. you've seen a change of party control of this house. you've seen our joyce -- joys and our sorrows. you witnessed the sorrow we all experienced and you experienced when a member of this house was attacked back in her district. there is a program called close up where

mr. van hollen: i thank my colleague. that is why she was such a good role model for christina taylor green, the 9-year-old girl born on that terrible day, september 11, 2001, and gunned down on another awful day for our nation. christina taylor green, gabe zimmerman, and four others are tragically no longer with us. as we mourn their loss, we also pray for the full recovery of those who are injured. gabby giffords a light -- giffords' light continues to shine and she'll continue to inspire young and old throughout arizona and our nation. god bless gabby giffords and all the victims of this horrible tragedy. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from california. mr. lungren: madam speaker, at this time i would yield two minutes to the gentlelady from missouri, mrs. emerson. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from missouri is recognized. mrs. emerson: thank you, madam speaker. you know, we all get to know a person through the words of others and for our colleague, gabrielle giffords,

mr. van hollen. the chair: the gentlan from maryland. mr. van hollen: thank yo mr. speaker.i thank my colleague. i rise in strong opposition to this measure which along with the supreme court's radical decision in citizens united takes our nation's campaign finance system in precisely the wrong direction. less transparency and less informatiofor the voters. americans from across the political spectrum, democrats, republicans, independents, want less special interest money in politics, not more. they want clean, transparent and competitive elections and campaigns where candidates, those of us in this room, presidential candidates, rise and fall bas on the quality of their ideas, the strength of their arguments and their ability to attract support from the votes that are they seeko represent. what they don't want, what they don't want are campaigns decided by how much secret money flows into an election from secret outside groups. and they will no longer tolerate, i believe, those politicians tuing around and saying to those citizens, you have no right to know who's paying for

mr. van hollen from maryland for five minutes. ms. delauro from connecticut for five minutes. ms. y from california for five minutes. mr. mcdermott from washington for five minutes. ms. kaptur from ohio for five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. for what purpose does the gentleman from michigan, mr. kildee, rise? without objection. mr. kildee: mr. speaker, today we will be saying farewell to the pages who have served this house so well, they're standing back of the chambers here now, and we wish to thank you for your service. i've been on the page board for about 30 years. speaker tip o'neill appointed me to this board and this has been a tremendous group of pages. you've worked hard, yufpke worked well and you've worked -- you've worked well and you've worked honorably. you've seen history. you've seen a change of party control of this house. you've seen our joyce -- joys and our sorrows. you witnessed the sorrow we all experienced and you experienced when a member of this house was attacked back in her district. there is a program called close up where people c

van hollen van you so much for your time. guest: thank you. host: on the senate side, senator charles grassley joins us. i want to begin where mr. hollen left off. that is what the president had to say on taxes. i want to show our viewers what the taxes said when it comes to lobbyists and the tax code. >> over the years, a parade of lobbyists has benefited companies and industries. those with accountants or lawyers to work the system can end up paying no taxes at all. the rest of us are hit with one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. it makes no sense and it has to change. [applause] tonight, i am asking democrats and republicans to simplify the system, get rid of the loopholes, and level the playing field. use the savings to lower the corporate tax rate for the first time in 25 years. host: senator grassley, what is your reaction? guest: i agree with the president. there are many in this town that go to sophisticated ways to think up and even a copyright and patent certain tax principles. in a bill coming up that senator leahy and i introduced, we want to do away with that. he is absolutely right. there is an indus

mr. van hollen are going to be offering. i think the crux of the agenda of the new congress, and that is the idea that we need to reduce deficits and reduce costs, not only for the federal taxpayer but also for state and local taxpayers and of course for citizens and families. our amendment is a simple one that simply says that the costs that will be incurred have to be paid for in the bill. this is a classic pay pay-as-you-go or cut as you go, whatever you are using this year. it says that if you want to take an action, whether it is to pass a law, whether it is to change a law, amend the law, that it should be fully paid for. it is something i have heard repeatedly articulated why my republican colleagues and frankly those of us on the democratic side have articulated the form of the pay as we go rules oversight of. i do need to ask unanimous consent that my amendment he amended because this morning the number went from $143 billion that this bill would cost. it went up to $230 billion according to the cbo estimates. and j