mr. van hollen: not right now. mr. ryan: i said net. mr. van hollen: that also is not true and we'll have a longer discussion, but the reality is ag subsidies is one interesting calculation. they have brought it to the floor again while it cuts deeply into food nutrition programs and doesn't take one penny from ag subsidies or ag businesses. it's important to correct a statement that was made with respect to the food program. i think the chairman knows that the snap statute provides in statute two routes for people to be eligible for food and nutrition assistance. one is the specific income and asset test or they can become eligible under the snap statute based on participation in other programs where they have to show income-based needs. nobody wants fraud. we should find every dollar of wasted money and get rid of it, but don't pretend that people under the statute qualify that they're engaged in fraud and what you are proposing to do in this republican bill is to deny millions of those people their legal support for folks on nutrition pro

mr. van hollen. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i want to say to my friend, the chairman of the budget committee, thank you. thank you, mr. speaker -- i want to say to my friend the chairman of the budget committee, i have great respect for him. i hope he will not take it the wrong way, but i am glad to have you back. we look forward to working with you next year. i hope we will be able to work in a bipartisan way, starting right now. unfortunately, that does not appear to be the case. we are engaged here in the house on this floor today in what has become a ridiculous political stunt which will actually take us much closer as a country to going over the fiscal cliff. we are wasting valuable time. the speaker should be engaged with the president of the united states in the negotiations rather than having morwalked away from those negotiations. that walking away is becoming a bad habit. the president put on the table a balanced budget plan that calls for shared responsibility. it calls for $1.20 trillion in additional revenues from

mr. van hollen. mr. van hollen: thank you, mr. speaker. i want to say to my friend the chairman of the budget committee, is the mike on? thank you. thank you, mr. speaker. the -- at the outset i want to say to my fend the chairman of the budget committee, i have great respect for him and i hope he won't take it toe wrong way but i'm glad to have you back and look forward to actually working with you next year. i actually hope that we'll be able to work in a bipartisan way starting right now, unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be the case and we are engaged here in the house on this floor today in what has become a ridiculous political stunt which will take us much closer as a country to going over the fiscal cliff. we're wasting valuable time. the speaker should be engaged with the president of the united states in negotiations rather than having walked away from those negotiations. with the president. that walking away is becoming a bad habit. the president put on the table a balanced budget plan that calls for shared responsibility. i