mr. van pelt. >> thank you. regon also leveraged sources from different state agency but i will have to get back to you on precise number and payment source. >> i'm going to come right back to you quickly, mr. van pelt, because when did the state first alert seen as the exchange is not going to be operational? >> that's all in the first data assessment and i have to defer to that report. >> secant address the oversight -- >> my particular role was such that i was called in shortly after the governor and cover oregon determined this was not working or going to work and that being the case my time focused on setting up paper application process and that was going forward. >> and my point was seen as a very, very poor oversight. affect your predecessors were talking in regards to their lackluster questions than how they impressed cms with unimpressive answers but i'd like to have a report on that. that. >> be happy to do that. >> i yield back. >> thank you again for your outstanding testimony. it's really a tribute

mr. van pelt? >> thank you. leveraged work force from different state agencies, but i will have to get back to you on the precise number and source. >> i'm going to come right back pelt, quickly, mr. van because when did the state first alert c.m.s. that the exchange operational? to be >> that's all in the first data have tont, and i'd defer to that report, congressman. address the -- >> my particular role was such that i was called in shortly after the governor and the, determined that this was not working or going to work and that being the case my time onsetting up the paper application process and steps going forward. was that c.m.s. had very poor oversight, in your predecessors were talking in regard to later lackluster questions and how impressed c. m. s. with unimpressive answers so i'd like to have a detailed report on that. >> i'd be happy to do that. >> i yield back. >> the gentle lady from california is recognized. >> thank you, and thank you again for your outstanding testimony. tribute

mr. van pelt, i want to talk about the co-ops. that is a new invention as well. obviously, that is in the middle of the market heard several of you have co-ops in the market. oregon health and health republic, both of those names ring true there. each receive $60 million to start up as a co-op. are you familiar with how they're doing and how they're functioning within the exchange? >> no, i can get that information for you. it has been relatively low enrollment numbers. >> how's that working? the initiative was, the initial perspective was to create some nonprofit that is sitting out there so if compete, or the would go into places to market would not go. have you experienced that they are good competition for the others? >> we have had a very good turnout in terms of profit, taxable nonprofit and not-for-profit plans. i can't say there has been much discussion or analysis of the impact of the co-op. >> when you say there's not much discussion or analysis, can you tell me if there's any sense of relief that the co-ops are there? we would not have met articles abo

mr. van pelt, i want to talk about the co-ops. that is a new invention as well. obviously, that is in the middle of the market heard several of you have co-ops in the market. oregon health and health republic, both of those names ring true there. each receive $60 million to start up as a co-op. i familiar with how they're doing and how they're functioning within the exchange? >> no, i can get that information for you. it has been relatively low enrollment numbers. >> how's that working? the initiative was, the initial was to create some nonprofit that is sitting out there so if compete, or the would go into places to market would not go. have you experienced that they are good competition for the others? >> we have had a very good turnout in terms of profit, taxable nonprofit and not-for-profit plans. i can't say there has been much discussion or analysis of the impact of the co-op. >> when you say there's not much discussion or analysis, can you tell me if there's any sense of relief that the co-ops are there? we would not have met articles about them? >> i don'

mr. van pelt. we will now turn to questioning. t's start with a gentleman, vice chair committee, the gel men from arizona. >> mr. leitz, i want to start off with you. we talked about the rocky start for your exchange, earlier. my first question is, and the three months leading up to the botched website rollout, ebbers of the websites receive bonuses for the work they did on the exchange, is that accurate? it is. >> why would the state pay people a total of $27,000 for a botched website? usually bonuses go to exceptional work. botched doesn't seem to mean exceptional. >> congressman, those bonuses were approved in the previous executive director. >> i'm glad you said that. have you done anything to call back those bonuses? >> congressman, not today, no. >> interesting. in january, united health optimum division released a report stating that the exchanges current program management structure and process is nonexistent. management and leadership decision-making is in crisis mode. that report also concluded that the exchange might be

mr. van pelt. we will now turn to questioning. let's start with a gentleman, vice chair committee, the gel men from arizona. >> mr. leitz, i want to start off with you. we talked about the rocky start for your exchange, earlier. my first question is, and the three months leading up to the botched website rollout, ebbers of the websites receive bonuses for the work they did on the exchange, is that accurate? >> it is. >> why would the state pay people a total of $27,000 for a botched website? usually bonuses go to exceptional work. botched doesn't seem to mean exceptional. >> congressman, those bonuses were approved in the previous executive director. >> i'm glad you said that. have you done anything to call back those bonuses? >> congressman, not today, no. >> interesting. in january, united health optimum division released a report stating that the exchanges current program management structure and process is nonexistent. management and leadership decision-making is in crisis mode. that report also concluded that the exchange migh