ashlee vance wrote the biography on mr. musk, which is out next week. cover picture, i absolutely love it, a picture of mr. musk as a boy. there he was as a child. give us a quick snapshot. we know the man, the myth, the legend. what was he like as a kid come as a teen? ashlee: he was into science fiction. there was this other side of him that i uncovered for the first time. he was a real loner and had a hard time in school. people bullied him. he didn't have any super close friends. it's interesting that he has become this celebrity ceo. his friends and said this would be the last person you would expect to do well this. he was definitely smart. he just kept to himself, so nobody knew what was going on inside his head. erik: everyone wants to know what is going on inside his head. what makes them so successful? what drives him to take the risks that he takes? what was most surprising? ashlee: elon is a unique case because he talks about wanting to take man to mars and becoming a -- some people think it is a stick. this is his life's quest. he is so dri