mr. volcker have criticized mr. bernanke. not that his heart isn't in the right place, but he's written these aggressor analyses and mit articles farther than he should have written them. pretty soon, as steve said, jay leno's jokes are going to move the market about a taper. i just think at some point this is doing more harm than good. i personally don't think it's a communication problem. i think these programs have run their course and exit in a very calculating -- the way he said it, different variations of qe. it will end at the end of the year. let's be done, black and white clear about it. >> a lot is riding on this meeting, bob. he's got to say something on wednesday. >> i think things will stabilize once the fed makes it clear there is unlikely there will be any dramatic end to tapering. it will be very, very slow. most people have mid-2014. there are numbers all over the place. >> you don't go from 2% to 10% overnight. >> who knows, it could even go up between that, and of course everybody seems to understand that i