mr. volker: no, i don't think that was the message.nk the message was, we have to get putin to the negotiating table. you don't want to bash putin, criticize him personally and never get an end to the war. if you want to end the war, you have to get putin to the negotiating table. taking a position firmly fighting against putin trump is not going to do that. he wants to end the war right now, so he is being careful not to position himself that way. unfortunately, what happened in that meeting, zelensky i think mr. real opportunity to get the u.s. and ukraine in alignment. trump has been putting together this concept of a cease fire, reciprocity with ukraine, where we get paid back for military assistance so it is a fair deal for the american people, deterrence in terms of security assurances and european presence, so putin does not attack again, and improving the burden sharing ratio so europe does more and the west is relatively less. john: since this meeting he has said he does not want a quick cease fire because he does not believe