mr. wagner, you were going to address the sheriff's witnesses. i am a little surprised. when mr. kopp stood up, he clearly said he only needed two witnesses, the mayor and the sheriff. the other witnesses were there as defensive measures. that is the color through which i am reviewing other discussion. >> if i may, let me clarify that i think you misunderstood. the distinction is between live witness testimony and decorations. that is what the comments were referring to. we believe it is our position, in terms of live witness testimony, the only essential witnesses are the sheriff and the mayor. all other testimony could be submitted. that is what he intended to convey. >> please proceed. >> as to the former mayor -- >> we need to hear from the former mayor. >> mayor agnos is expected to testify because it would impeach mayor lee's. specifically, he will testify to conversations he had with mayor lee immediately prior to the suspension of the sheriff. >> and this will relate to why the mayor suspended the shares fax -- the sheriff'? >> the testimony will impeach the mayor's credi

mr. wagner, is that correct, how mr. keith characterized what the former mayor would testify to? >> i believe i have already stated the testimony would impeach the credibility, vis-a- vis the conversations he had with nearly -- with mayor lee. >> what would he say? what is this other reason? >> excuse me. mayor agnos told mayor lee to talk to eliana lopez directly, and asked whether he had spoken to any other mayor about his intention to suspend the sheriff. he indicated he had not. at minimum, that is extremely relevant to the suspension of the sheriff, in terms of his motivations, his lack of reviewing any evidence, or even contacting eliana lopez in this case before he suspended the sheriff. i will add as a former mayor we could have called mayor agnos just as the city attorney has called retired sheriff's, as a witness of what constitutes misconduct and when a mayor should suspend another official. >> mr. wagner, assuming that the mayor testifies, what you say mayor agnos is going to testify -- there is no need for him to come in and say anything. it does not attack credibili

mr. wagner earlier described the backstop commitment but this may also be used for the cost of caring for the beneficiaries. while this is an allowable expense, it is unlikely that it will be needed. the final provision for the agreement addresses the patients, and this requires cpmc to manage some of these beds for 10 years. there is the laguna honda, an example you are likely familiar with. there are rehabilitation services in a residential setting. the skilled nursing is the highest level of care that they can receive outside of the hospital. the skilled nursing services are 24-hour residential care. cpmc provides this skilled care for approximately 100 patients. there are approximately 62 patients that are receiving the care at st. luke's. they have 79 skilled nursing beds. this is equal to 62. cpmc is not looking at including new beds, but instead, they will look at the new beds in san francisco. these will be new ones, currently in use. this will maintain the overall availability of the care in san francisco. all 100 of the beds will have those who have medicare or private health in

mr. wagner, do you have a response? -- or mr. maggonerwaggoner, do u have a response? >> our response is founded upon the fact that we have a very different view of what the duties of the sheriff are then the mayor appears to have. we take more of a literal list or strict constructionist approach -- literalist or strict constructionist approach. we believe the duties are spelled out in the charter, which is why we did not object to that portion. the rest of what acting sheriff hennessy has to tell you will be irrelevant to your determination of whether what he is charged with doing constitutes official misconduct and is related to the specific duties enumerated in the charter. much of the is an enlargement of those core duties. that is the basis for our objection. chairperson hur: any questions for mr. kopp from the commissioners? thank you, mr. kopp. >> may i respond? chairperson hur: no. i understand the parties have a different view whether and to what degree the actions in this case relate to the sheriff's duties. given that there is a legal dispute about that, and

mr. wagner or mr. kopp to address this issue and deal with a declaration issued. >> we would concur with what chairperson hur state. th- -- stated. that -- i don't thnk that -- think that live testimony would serve any other purpose. i want to respond to something that mr. keith just said. this red herring of witness dissuasion has consumed an incredible amount of time and effort and energy and it does not -- should have no place here. what mr. keith just told you is not true. mr. mertons was interviewed by the police and was asked, did it sound like the sheriff was feeding his wife lines to tell you, to try to dissuade you? the response was no. it sounded like he was on another phone call together. this has been a complete waste of time and an effort to publicly tar the sheriff with something that is not just on provable, it is false. -- unprovable, it is false. chairperson hur: cat i invite you back up? -- can i invite you back up? the list you provided was longer than the list i provided. i apologiz

mr. wagner to address that. chairperson hur: that is fine -- >> that is fine with us. chairperson hur: ok. that is fine by me. >> this chair will be called by you and your case and chief. is it agreeable, mr. kopp, that you or whenever council is handling it, are you going to wait and put him on when you put your case on? >> we will do it at the same time. chairperson hur: in that case, we would allow some leeway on the redirect. >> the objections to the exhibits will be submitted by the end of the day tomorrow are due when? chairperson hur: the objections should be due by monday. the 25th. again, the point is to give you guys a chance to stipulate where stipulation is opprobrious so that we do not have to deal with an objection every single exhibit. is that acceptable to the commission? anything else that we need to deal with? >> not on our part. thank you. >> nothing for us. >> i do not think so. chairperson hur: commissioners, do we need a motion to adopt the interim decisions that we made throughout the evening? >> it is a custom. you do not need it but you usually

mr. wagner? -- waggoner? >> as to any rulings on admissibility or testimony, we are certainly fine with how we have had the chairman decisions on those matters. >> even the admissibility of evidence? >> yes. thank you. >> why don't i solicit the mayor's view on that? >> i think on a lot of these evidentiary questions, there may be differences of opinion within the commission. i think we probably need to have some of the decisions made at a hearing. there are always issues that are somewhat easy, but it is hard to sort out the easy ones. >> ok. i think if there is a dispute among the parties, i do not even think it is worth bringing it up at the commission. i think we would need a stipulation on that sort of delegation. ok. here is what i propose. i propose that we have mr. st. croix look at the states and see if we can get hearing rooms. -- these dates and see if we can get hearing rooms. we will do our utmost to get witnesses. i know you have a bigger burden, because you are first. we expect live testimony f

one woman was transported to the hospital and sadly mrs. wagner lost her husband. >> there was already fire. as soon as we opened the door, that is when the doc ran out and we got out in time. the flames flew and that was it. >> when fire companies arrived, the hours was fully involved in fire. >> we arrived on the scene to find a house that was basically fully involved with heavy smoke and heavy fire. the firefighters made a quick attack on the fire extinguishing it and making a search and rescue for the other victim inside. they later found a 51-year-old male victim that had expired. >> the family, also lost ten cats and one of their pit bulls to this deadly fire. they had no working smoke detectors and the fire department is investigating that claimnd a the cause of the fire still remains under investigation. >> i'm manny lock, abc2news. >> her daughter was preparing for a wedding tomorrow. the red cross is helping the family. >>> not bad, 73 outside right now. celebration, a beautiful afternoon with the clouds across the area. then we saw the

mr. wagner, we have a microphone here. i think it would be helpful if you used it to make objections so everybody can hear. is that possible? would you mind moving over there? the second thing is we're now in a very sensitive part of the hearing where we have testimony coming from witnesses, and so we're going to have to be very strict about comments and outbursts from the crowd. i understand you may have -- you may feel like you want to have a reaction, and that's natural. but i would ask you to restrain yourself, because it is important that the we have silence and can focus on the witness and question. if there is an outburst, i am asking that they be removed from the proceedings. thank you. >> sheriff, where were you when you first learned there was a police investigation of the incident on january -- excuse me, where were you when you first learned there was a police investigation of the incident between you and your wife that occurred on december 31? >> i received a phone call from my wife some time after 4:00 p.m. o

paul wagner has the latest. >> reporter: mr. metro transit authority says the man killed was under investigation for an attempted abduction that took place sunday near the minnesota avenue station in northeast. they say the police initially came out to the man's house, which is right here behind me on sunday, father's day. a neighbor tells me that she saw the police actually come to the house twice. the metro says the detective showed up for a follow up investigation today, and she heard raised voices, the man said do you have a warrant, and she looked up to see, the man with the gun. had what happened next is not exactly clear, but the neighbor says she saw the officer run to his car, and back off down the street. that's when the man under investigation, described arsonist had -- as a man in his 40s got in a pickup truck and followed. >> what we know, at approximately 12:30 p.m., metro transit police detective was here, conducting this investigation. when he came in contact with an armed suspect. the suspect opened fire on the

mr. sanctimonious. >> sorry. >> that's fine. alex wagner stay with us.ne is spilling over to the euro cup. roger bennett is here to explain how it's become a mood ring for europe's economic and social unrest. is that a stretch? not sure about that. up next, dad, dr. zbigniew brzezinski joins us in the studio. bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> good morning to you, mika. everyone getting ready for a hot day around the country from the desert southwest and the middle midwest to the northeast. it's the northeast that's really the intention today, first heat of the summer. heat advisories and heat warnings including philadelphia. the bottom line is two days in a row of a heat index that will feel like 100 to 105 during the afternoon. here's the forecast high temperatures today. remember these are taken in the shade so in the sun on the pavement it will be worse than this. 100 possible today in connecticut. temperatures in the upper 90s from d.c. all the way up to boston. i think thursday is going to be probably the hottest day in the big city. we c