mr. wagner. your recognized for five minutes. >> thank you for the opportunity to discuss the efforts of u.s. customs and border protection. each day, we process more than one million people into the united states. 280,000 of them enter at international airports. cbp is responsible for securing the nation's borders while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel that is so vital to our nation's economy. within this broad responsibility, our mission remains to prevent terrorist and terrorist weapons from entering the united states. we also play an important role in limiting the introduction, transmission and spread of , serious medical diseases from foreign countries. we have had this role for over 100 years, and is travel and threats change, cdp has changed as well. we have had modern protocols in place that guided response to a variety of signal to get health threats over his and years. cbp officers assess each traveler for overt signs of illness, in response to the recent ebola outbr

mr. wagner. opportunity for the to discuss the efforts of u.s. customs and border protection's. more thanwe process one million people into the united states. 280,000 of them enter at international airports. cbp is responsible for securing the nation's borders while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel that is so vital to our nation's economy. within this broad responsibility, our mission remains to prevent terrorist and terrorist weapons from entering the united states. we also play an important role in limiting the introduction, transition, and spread of serious medical diseases from foreign countries. we have had this role for over 100 years, and is travel and threats change, cdp has changed as well. inhave had modern protocols place that guided response to a variety of signal to get health threats over his and years. cbp officers assess each traveler for overt signs of illness, in response to the reasonable outbreak, -- recent is workingeak, cbp to ensure that frontline office

mr. wagner, you mentioned that we're screening 94% of those people? >> as of today with the expansion to the four additional locations, that covers about 94%. >> of the 100 to 150, 94% being covered. that means somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000 people a year are coming into this country without being screened from the affected areas? >> well, they would undergo a different form of screening. we're still going to identify that they've been to one of those three affected regions. and we're still going to ask them questions about their itinerary. we'll coordinate with cdc and public health if they're sick. and we're also going to give them a fact sheet about ebola, about the symptoms, what to watch for, and most importantly, who to contact. >> would we be checking their temperature? >> we will not be checking the temperatures or having them fill out a contact sheet or about their -- >> so there's 2,000 to 3,000 people entering this country a year without checking their temperature, without having the contact sheet that 94% of those affected people. >> th

mr. wagner at the airports in west africa, the temperature threshold was 101.5. and then i think the screenings we're doing at these five major airports including hartsfield international in atlanta, it's now 100.4. when mr. duncan came for the first time to the texas presbyterian hospital, his temperature was 100.1 and within 24 hours it was 103. when mom and dad are out there and their child has a temperature and this fall is flu season and they're going to the doctor, they're going to demand being checked for ebola. what's elevated temperature and when should parents be concern? >> parents should not be concerned about ebola unless you are living in west africa or the child has had exposure to ebola and right now the only people who have had exposure to ebola in the u.s. are people who either are providing care for ebola patients or the contacts of the three ebola patients and i outlined those in this sheet. for our screening criteria, we're always going to try to have an additional margin of safety. we look at that. we rather check more people and assess and s

mr. wagner, you had mentioned we are screening 94% of those people? >> as of today with the expansion to the four additional locations that covers about 94%. >> so 94% are being covered that means that somewhere between two and 3,000 people a year are coming into this country without being screened from the effected areas. >> well, they would undergo a different form of screening. we are still going to identify they have been to one of the three effected regionens and we with are still going to ask them questions. we will be alert to any overt signs of illness. if they are sick, and we will also give them a fact sheet about ebola, the symptoms what to watch for, and who to contact. >> we will not be checking temperatures or having them fill out a contact sheet. >> so there's two to 3,000 people entering this country a year without checking their temperature, without having the contact sheet that 94% of those people. >> you

mr. wagner, you don't know? >> from the united states or from anywhere. >> from the united states into those areas. >> there are no direct flights, no commercial flights. >> into the area? >> into any -- >> into west africa? >> there are flights into west africa. >> how many? >> that i don't have offhand. >> anybody on the panel know how many? how many coming back into the united states? >> there are no commercial flights coming directly into the united states from those three areas. >> and what about europe? >> there's hundreds of flights coming from europe. >> okay. so people traveling from west africa to europe to here? >> that's generally how they would get here. >> and 94% screening. how many flights are required daily, every other day or weekly to get the supplies and personnel to the affected areas? >> the quantity of supplies is quite large. we would have to get back to you in terms of the numbers, but there's huge quantities needed. not just supplies, also personnel who need to move back and forth. >> i

mr. wagner, you had mentioned this we're screening 94% of those people? >> as of today with the expansion to the four additional locations. that covers about 94%. >> so of the 100 to 150, 94% are being covered. that means that somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000 people a year are coming into this country without being screened from the affected areas? >> well, they would undergo a different form of screening. we're still going to identify that they've been to one of those three affected regions, and we're still going to ask them questions about their itinerary. we're going to be alert to any overt signs of illness and coordinate with cdc and public health if they're sick, and we're also going to give them a fact sheet about ebola, about the symptoms, what to watch for, and most importantly, who to contact? >> will you be checking their temperature? >> we will not be checking their temperatures or having them fill out a contact sheet about their -- >> there's 2,000 to 3,000 people entering this country a year without checking their temperature, without havin

mr. wagner, are we prepared for that? are they protected to the fullest etent of what they need. >> we issued personal protective gear, and we train them on how to wear it and what circumstances. but they encounter all different kinds of travel hers with a whole host of diseases. so we are aware and we do train to recognize signs of overillness, and we have the protocols to get them into that care and protect our employees. young lady from north carolina. >> thank you, so much. mr. chairman, and i have a number of questions. i would like to start with dr. varga. in regard to the two nurses that were exposed. my understanding is one of the nurses first nurse, ms. fan,en was exposed in the emergency room and that correct. >> the first nurse was exposed in the emergency room, shark. >> no, that would not be correct. nina was one of our icu nurses. when mr. duncan was transferred from the emergency department. >> so that was sometime from september 28th to the 30th is that correct? okay, is then the second nurse, ms. vincent,

mr. wagner, you don't know? >> from the united states or from anywhere? >> from the united states into those areas. >> there are no direct flights, commercial flights, from the three affected areas into the united states. >> and into the area into west africa? >> there are flights into west africa. >> how many? >> that i don't know off hand. >> anyone on the panel know how many? how many coming back into the united states? >> there are no commercial flights coming directly into the united states from those three areas. >> what about europe? >> there's hundreds of flights a day coming from europe. >> okay. so people traveling from west africa to europe to here? >> that's generally how they would get here. >> and 94% screening. >> how many flights are required daily every other day or weekly to get the supplies and personnel to the affected areas? >> the quantity of supplies is quite large. we would have to get back to you in terms of the numbers, but there's huge quantities needed, but it's not just supplies. it's also personnel we need to move back and fo

mr. wagner indicated 94% screening. let me give you a scenario. let's say a person comes into the country from west africa and let's assume that everything in the screening process works right. they are maybe in day 14 of having been exposed to ebola in west africa. they show up here in america with no symptoms. they go through the screening process and so they go on about wherever they go. akron, cleveland, cincinnati, los angeles, wherever. day 17 or 18, they start getting ill and they start seeing a spike in their temperature. if they walk into any emergency room in ohio and start throwing up, having symptoms, does your plan identify that and does your plan tell that hospital emergency room what to do in that scenario? they don't know that person came from liberia or any other place. >> we have detailed checklists that we have distributed widely and provided repeated trainings and information so that healthcare providers throughout the country have a detailed checklist of what to do step by step by step to determine whether the person has ebola

mrs. wagner's class in new castle. the kids participating in the pillow case project. it's a red cross program that teaches the kids how to plan and pack for emergencies like a fire or a major storm. >> smart and fun at the same time. those kids will probably have to have a jacket tomorrow morning. >> yes, probably a jacket, especially if you'll be out around 7:00, 7:30, even 8:00 in the morning. temperatures start off in the 40s. jim is shaking his head. he will not be up that early. i'll be sleeping hopefully. by afternoon, upper 60s. cooler than today ending out the week. late rain into the weekend so we'll start off with rain. >> the tonight show starring jimmy fallon is next. have a great night. over the past four years pennsylvania has gone from 9th to 47th in job creation. and now, news about our economy is getting even worse. "pennsylvania's jobless rate is up for the second straight month as employment fell and unemployment rose." "bond rating agency has cut pennsylvania's rating to double a minus because of recurring budget deficits." "the state government is

mr. wagner? >> we would look at any proposal that would improve the safety of americans. >> this is not about funding so i am not going to ask you because i think we know what your answers would be, but i just want to share the concern expressed -- mr. chairman, we may want to have a hearing at some point about funding requirements to make sure the emperor's structure this country needs to be in place before thishing -- infrastructure country needs to be in place before something happens is robust that we have people who are strong and trained and ready to do the job. that is not today's hearing, but i think it is a question we should address the cause with 20% across-the-board funding and nih, i find not to be a reckless decision. 12% at cbc i think is reckless. we have to revisit our priorities and making sure we have the emperor structure in public health to protect the -- infrastructure and public health to protect the american people. >> we do have a hearing scheduled on that. >> i now recog

mr. wagner? >> we would look at any proposal that would improve the safety of americans. >> this is not about funding so i am not going to ask you because i think we know what your answers would be, but i just want to share the concern expressed -- mr. chairman, we may want to have a hearing at some point about funding requirements to make sure the infrastructure this country needs to be in place before something happens is robust that we have people who are strong and trained and ready to do the job. that is not today's hearing, but i think it is a question we should address the cause with 20% across-the-board funding and nih, i find that to be a reckless decision. 12% at cbc i think is reckless. we have to revisit our priorities and making sure we have the emperor structure in public health to protect the -- infrastructure and public health to protect the american people. >> we do have a hearing scheduled on that. i now recognize mr. griffith. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i believe we should hav

mr. wagner, would it help y'all the border patrol if we with secures the southern border and eliminated illegal entry? >> well, travel is coming across the southern border like the northern border. we are going to ask them their travel, where they are coming from, how they arrived in h the country. >> yes or no would be sufficient, i need to move on. i want to come backing to you, i would with remind you that a week before last, when i was at the c.d.c., and i thank you for letting me come down, that i recommend do a quarantined in the effected region, and hold people there, and i still think that is something we should consider. quarantining people for 21 with days before they leave that region, it helps every country. i want with to go backen to an issue that we talked habit at the cdc in the subsequent phone call, and that is the medical waste. and you assured me that stage cared protocols were being followed for dispose sol after this waste, and we know that 25 years ago, hospitals could incinerate their waste, epa regulations now prohibit that, and the waste has to be trucked, and they out

mr. wagner became his current position in 2008. he overseas employees and specialists that protect our borders. his annual budget provides operations that support national security and customs and commercial trade. the full written statement will appear in the record. >> good afternoon. i appreciate the opportunity to be here today to discuss the current epidemic of ebola in west africa, as well is the work the cdc is doing to manage the global consequences of this epidemic. i have been particularly involved with colleagues here in dallas, addressing the first u.s. diagnosed ebola case. like you, our hearts go out to the family and friends of mr. duncan. as the cdc director noted, mr. duncan puts a real face on the epidemic for all americans. the ebola epidemic in guinea, liberia, and sierra leone is ferocious. it continues to spread exponentially. the current outbreak is the first that has been recognized in west africa, and the biggest and most complex ebola outbreak ever documented. as of last week, the surge past 7900 cumulativ

mr. wagner you are recognize today five minutes. >> thank you, chairman murphy. distinguished members of the subcommittee for the opportunity to discuss the efforts of u.s. just ups and border protection in deterring the spread of ebola by means of international travel. each day about 1 million travelers arrive in the united states. about 280,000 of them arrive at our international airports. cbp is responsible for securing our nations borders while securing the flow of legitimate travel and trade that is so vital our nation less economy. within this broad responsibility our priority mission remains to prevent terrorists and weapons from arriving in the united states. we also try to secure the threat of sear diseases from other country is we have had this role for over a hundred years and have guided the response to a variety of significant health threats. cbp officers assess each traveler for overt signs of illness in response to the recent ebola virus out break in west africa, cbp in close collaboration request with cdc is work to go inning their front line offi

mr. wagner, you're recognized for five minutes. andhank you, chairman distinguished members of the subcommittee for the opportunity efforts of u.s. customs and border protection. each day, about one million travelers arrive in the united states. about 280,000 arrive at our international airports. cbp is responsible for securing our nation's borders while facilitying the flow of legitimate and international trade so vital to our nation's economy. this broad responsibility, our mission remains to prevent terrorists united states.he however, we also play an limiting thee in introduction of diseases from foreign countries. 100e had this role for over years. we've had modern protocols in place that have guided response to a variety of significant health threats. officers assess each traffer illness. signs of cbp, in close collaboration with cdc, is working to ensure that officers are provided the information, training and equipment needed to identify and respond to international travelers who may pose a threat to public health. all offi

mr. john p. wagner, assisting commissioner of u.s. field operations in border frictions at the u.s.epartment of homeland security. joining us today on video conference from texas is dr. daniel varga, a chief clinical officer at texas health resources. i'll swear in the witnesses. you are all aware that the committee is holding an investigative hearing, and when doing so, had the practice of taking testimony under oath. do any of you have objections to taking testimony under oath? the witnesses say no, and dr. vargo? >> no. >> thank you. the chair, then, advices you under the rules of the house and rules of the committee, you are entitled to be advised by coup. do any of you prefer that today? >> no. >> dr. vargo? >> no. >> okay. thank you. everyone answers no. in this case, rise and raise your right hand and i will swear you in. do you swear the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> i do. >> i do. >> yes, i do. >> thank you, doctor. you are now under oath and subject to the penalties set forth in section 18 and title 18 of the u

mr. wagner, at the airports in west africa, the 101.5,ture threshold was and then i think now the screening we are doing that these five major airports, atlanta, it is 100.4. when mr. duncan came for the first time to the texas presbyterian hospital, his temperature was, what, 100.1, and within 24 hours it was 103. when mom and dad are out there -- when a child has temperature and it is flu season and they are going to the doctor, they are going to demand being checked for ebola. give us some guidelines on what is elevating the temperature and when should parents be concerned ? >> parents should not be concerned about evil unless you are living in west africa or the child has had exposure to ebola. the only people who have had exposure to ebola in the u.s. are people who are providing care to ebola patients or the contacts of the three ebola patients. for our screening criteria we are always going to try to have additional margins of safety. we look at that and we would rather check more people and assess -- we are going to always have that extra margin of safety. >> thank you, and i yield

mr. wagner, at the airports in west africa, the 101.5,ture threshold was and then i think now the screening we are doing that these five major airports, atlanta, it is 100.4. when mr. duncan came for the first time to the texas presbyterian hospital, his temperature was, what, 100.1, and within 24 hours it was 103. when mom and dad are out there -- when a child has temperature and it is flu season and they are going to the doctor, they are going to demand being checd for ebola. give us some guidelines on what is elevating the temperature and when should parents be concerned ? >> parents should not be concerned about evil unless you are living in west africa or the child has had exposure to ebola. the only people who have had exposure to ebola in the u.s. are people who are providing care to ebola patients or the contacts of the three ebola patients. for our screening criteria we are always going to try to have additional margins of safety. we look at that and we would rather check more people and assess -- we are going to always have that extra margin of safety. >> thank you, and i yield ba

mr. wagner at the airports in west africa, the temperature threshold was 101.5. nd then i think now the screenings at the five major airports, including hartsfield international in atlanta, it's now 100.4. when mr. duncan came for the first time to the texas presbyterian hospital, his temperature was, what, 100.1, and within 24 hours it was 103. so, when mom and dad are out there work and their child has a temperature and this fall is flu season and they're going to the doctor, they're going to demand being checked for ebola. give us some guidelines on what is elevated temperature and when should parents be concerned? >> first, parents should not be concerned about ebola unless you're living in west africa or the child has had exposure to ebola. >> told you it was a real question. no reason for concern at all here in america. where ebola has not spread beyond one patient and two healthcare workers. very sad situation for that patient and those healthcare workers. beyond that, there is no concern, and if little johnny or janey has a temperature, it could be flu. wh

mr. john p. wagner the acting assistant commissioner of the office of field operations within u.s. customs and border protection at the homeland security and joining us today on video conference from texas dr. daniel varga chief clinical officer and senior vice president of the texas health resources. joining us in a moment. i will swear in the witnesses. you are all aware that the committee is holding an investigative hearing and when doing so, has had the practice of taking it testimony under oath. do any of you have any obje objections taking testimony under oath? >> witnesses say no. dr. varga? >> no. >> thank you. the chair then advises you that under the rules of the house and the rules of the committee you are entitled to be advised by own sell. do any of you? >> no. >> everyone answers no. would you please rise and raise your right hand. i will swear you in. do you swear the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> i do. >> thank you, doctor. >> you are under oath and subject to the penalties set forth in section 18 title 1

mrs. wagner's third grade class at wilmington manor. they are taking part in the pillow case project.teaches kids how to plan and pack for emergencies like a fire or a major storm. the red cross got the idea from louisiana college students who were forced from their dorms during hurricane katrina. >> the red cross workers down there saw them walking out with their pillow case that they took the pillow out, filled with supplies they thought they were going to need and evacuated that way. the red cross workers thought this was a great idea. while the kids are coloring their pillow cases, the red cross talks with them about what they'd pack. they hope the kids go home and keep the conversation going with parents and siblings. >> now your nbc 10ç first aler weather with chief meteorologist glenn "hurricane" schwartz. >> lots of sunshine today but also was kind of windy. that wind eventually will be bringing in cooler air. the chill returns tonight. it will last for several days. we have rain coming in, best chance for that is on saturday. and drier weather coming in by sunday. well, flye

mr. wagner, you're recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, chairman murphy, ranking member degette anddistinguished members about subcommittee to discuss the efforts of u.s customs & border protection to deer iting spread of ebola by ofns international travel. each one one travelers arrive in the united states. 850,000 of t arrive at international airports . c. travel and trade so vital to our nation ace economy. within this broad responsibility our priority mission remains to prevent terrorist and terrorist weapons from entering the united states. however, we also play an important role in limiting the introduction, transmission and spread of serious communicable diseases from foreign countries. we've had th role for over 100 years in coordination with cdc we had modern protocols i place for well over a decade guided response to have it roof significant health threats. cbp officers at all ports of entry assess each traveler for overt signs of illness. in response the recent ebola outbreak in west africa, cbp in close collaboration with cdc is working to insure front line officers are

mr. wagner from cbp said that 300 esta applications had been denied this year alone for security related reasons. but 400 that were previously approved were later denied. would you recommend expanding the data points that we are requesting from these countries? because you just said that we had told these countries that before their passengers get on the planes we've already screened them and we've approved them but more of them are being denied after the fact than before the fact. >> i think we should look hard at that and we should also look hard at expanding the kind of information we get from people so that we can do a better job of using our own intelligence capabilities to identify people who shouldn't be coming here. there are times when you said okay we want them to come here so we can arrest them. but those are rare. and absolutely. you know, the vwp gives us lots of leverage. but it's leverage you want to use sparingly because it's a little bit of mutual shared destruction. if you actually take somebody's visa waiver status away from them it's going to hurt you as much as it hu

mr. wagner from cbp said that 300 esta applications have been denied this year alone for security related reasons but 400 that were previously approved were later denied. would you recommend expanding the data points that we are requesting from these countries? you just said that we uphold these countries that before the passage get on the point we've already screened them and we've approved them more of them are being tonight after the fact and before fact. >> i think we should look hard at that and we should also look hard at expand the kind of information we get so we can do a better job of using our own intelligence capabilities to identify people who shouldn't be coming here. there are times when you said okay, we wanted to come there so we can arrest them, but those are rare. absolutely. you know, the vwp gives us lots of leverage. but it's leverage you want to use sparingly because it's a little bit of -- if you actually take someone's visa waiver status away from them, it's going to hurt you as much as it hurts them. what you need to do is find things like exchanges of information

mr. troy wagner has a quite lengthy disciplinary history. >> wagner says his latest outburst was prompted by his desire to be moved to another housing unit. he says other inmates were harassing him because he is a sex offender. >> the best thing is to keep it to yourself and not tell somebody what you're in prison for, because you tell people what you're in prison for, then they go around telling other inmates and other inmates will run after you, they want to fight you. >> like wagner, jeffrey flanders, serving a life sentence for murder, has also felt vulnerable around other inmates, but for a completely different reason. he stands just 4'6" tall. >> prison is a place where they tend to prey on the weak. i carry myself in a way that a person would know, if they came anywhere in my space and was trying to take something from me or cause me any type of physical harm, that they'll be dealt with. >> nobody ain't going to come take nothing from me. even if they won the battle, it won't be a battle they just win this day, it will be an ongoing battle. >> flanders' small stature is the result

a possibility he may be again and the same with professor wagner. >> those are almost always the trigger words for us saying no standing. >> mr. morrison, are you saying, i mean i know he would be out of the case but you really put a lot of emphasis on the analogy between contractors and employees. but it seems that in fact some of your clients illustrate exactly one of the big differences which is that contractors tend to be in and out, in and out of service. d that is really, it exacerbates the risk of pay to play. just the kind of quid pro quo corruption that is really at the heart of what this provision is about. somebody who has a short-term contract and then turns around d gets work again, that is the dynamic at the heart of this. >> with respect to both mr. miller and mr. brown, your honor, i see my time is about to expire. may i answer the question? >> of course >> both of them were of course long-term employees and then many years under contracts. they were hired not because of anything they did politically. they were hired because their employers knew who they were, appreciated their work, and wanted them brought ba

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>> the answer is, if the contractor was a person like wendy wagner essentially a part-time consultant or expert witness, the persons like mrmiller and mr. mr. brown almost certainly could not have done this through the yellow sea. or if they had, if the agency would have allowed them, they would have had a substantial sacrifice. that is, as individuals they have the agencies paying the employer share of their federal tax. in addition they get a vacation benefits and sick leave which obviously a corporation could not take. >> he sees me. let me fans is equal protection question. so your point is an equal protection i take it, it's not a realistic option. >> that is correct. >> switched to the first amendment side. doesn't that hurt your first amendment case? it's not a realistic option for employees. that does not undermine the legitimacy of the government you don't have all lot of government contractors creating al elsie's and making political contributions be don't have that. >> i agree, your honor. but the inability of individuals who are essentially working as a ploy used, it does not affect my first amendment argument.

wagner starts right now. >>> lawmakers lash out over the response to ebola. it is thursday, 16th, this is "now. >> people are frightened about getting ebola. ♪ ♪ >> unfortunately, in our initial treatment of mre made mistakes and we are deeply sorry. >> one of my main concerns, dr. frieden is do we know yet how the the two health care wokkers in dallas contracted the virus? the investigation is ongoing. we've identified some possible causes. >> so we don't know? >> we don't know. >> i get that. we don't know. >> this is a wake-up call for ameri america. we cannot nih funding to stagnate any longer. if you make personal contact with bodily fluids why is an airliner at the airport scrubbed four times. >> i understand that people are very concerned about ebola. it's a scary disease.