mr. walden. >> mr. cicconi, from your perspective, what does that mean in terms of -- is that accurate? will you -- will at&t and other companies still make last-mile connection available? and then i want to go to > mr. may on this as well. and again, hit that microphone button, if you would. >> mr. cicconi. short answer is of course we would make them available, and there is nothing we have proposed that would take that away. >> mr. walden. under the same interconnection, reasonable rates, terms and conditions? >> mr. cicconi. i think if we are talking about copper loops, you know, there is nothing in our proposal that would change the treatment of that as a "uni." >> i think when you are talking about, you know, ethernet, for example, the fcc has concluded the ethernet is a competitive service. so i think if we are rolling out ethernet services in replacement for tdm facilities -- you know, and to give you the sense of that, a tdm facility is not classed as a broadband-level facility by the fcc

mr. walden. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman, governor, secretary, delighted to have you before the committee. you and i both know how important this issue is to all americans that we get it right. so i hope you can appreciate we're trying to understand what we missed along the way, and one of the things that bothered me was the letter that was sent from your agency to the gao back in june 6th. and i'll read in part, it said, "we're in the final stages of finalizing and testing the i.t. infrastructure that will support the application enrollment process. hhs is extremely confident that on october 1st, the marketplace will open on schedule and millions of americans will have access to affordable quality health insurance." i'm just an average guy from a small town in oregon, but when i read that, it tells me you believed everything was good to go, the testing was in place, and we should have full confidence everything would work. correct? >> that's the letter i signed, yes, sir. >> actually, it was signed by your assistan

mr. walden in a previous question mentioned the fact that in an individual market you would be able to keep your policy, grand fathered, yet regulations issued by h.h.s. say that grand fathered status was not -- would not be a continued for so much as a $5 change in a co-pay. is that accurate? do you believe that is a significant change? >> sir, we gave i think in the grandfather regulations a guide for how pricing could change, medical inflation, and i think it was in most cases plus 15%. there were some individual consumer p out facing issues that were more rigid than that. but i would say that in terms of having companies being able to select a profit margin, that was certainly built into the grandfather -- >> that's too little a change. >> the gentleman's time has expired. mr. tonko. >> thank you, mr. chair. welcome, honorable secretary. thank you for fielding our questions and for responding when you were extend the courtesyle to offer a response. as a strong supporter of the affordable care act, i'm frustrated and i think it's fair to say that the american people are frustrated as wel

mr. walden in a previous question mentioned the fact that in an individual market you would be able to keep your policy grandfathered. yet regulations issued by hhs say that grandfathered status would not be a continued for so much as a $5 change in a co-pay. is that accurate? do you believe that that is a significant change? >> sir, we gave, i think in, the grandfather regulations a guide for how pricing could change, medical inflation and i think it was in most cases plus 15%. there were some individual consumer outfacing issues that were more rigid than that. but i would say that in terms of having companies being able to collect a profit margin, that was certainly built into the grandfather status. >> i think that's too little a change. >> the gentleman's time has expired. >> thank you, mr. chairman. welcome, honorable secretary. thank you for fielding our questions and for responding when you were extended the kurt stoi off -- courtesy to offer a response. as a strong supporter of the aca, i'm frustrated and it's fair to say the american people are frustrated as well. i heard you hear

mr. walden was asking you about cgi. as you know, chairman issa released this document, monthly status report from cgi last night and it looks to me like sort of a technical document that has a punch list of outstanding open issues. some of them do highlight items that upon first read seem to be alarming. for example, one of the entries said due to the compressed schedule there's not enough time built in to allow for adequate performance testing. and this certainly in retrospect sounds bad. but the date of the document that chairman issa released is september 6th and then on september 10th, four days later, cgi came into this committee and testified under oath, quote, cgi federal is confident it will develop -- deliver the functionality that cms has directed. and we're -- we're trying to figure out, at least i'm trying to figure out how cgi is now coming in and saying, you know, we warned everybody that this wasn't going to be ready when they came in and directly told me that they would be ready to launch on october 1st.

mr. walden. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i was in small business 22 years. we dealt with software upgrades. i'm feeling a lot of those emotions come back today. when we put in a new system, there would be multiple vendors, and every system operated perfectly except when it came together. then they all pointed fingers at somebody else. today,ling a lot of that only as a person who represents three-quarter of a million people with $500 million on the line. it is why we are here, to figure out what went wrong. it sounds like each of you has said that you design your system and tested it to the specifications that you were given by cms. is that accurate, yes or no? >> that is correct. >> yes. >> yes. >> our systems are not integrated. there andget to sit not have quite as much opportunity today. i want to go then to the first two. if you designed it to cms specifications and tested it and felt it was good to go, where did this breakdown? in most systems that you operate in, the do you do and to end tests prior to the rollout? and if so, when would you have prefe

mr. walden. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. . s -- >> the system operated perfectly except when it all came together. then they pointed fingers at somebody else. i'm feeling a lot of that today, only as a person who represents 3/4 of a million people and $500 million on the line. that's why we are here to figure out what went wrong. i'd just like to know on this whole end to end thing. it sound like each of you has said that you designed your system and tested it to the specifications you were given by cms is that accurate? yes or no. miss campbell? >> that is correct. >> mr. slavitt? >> yes. >> our systems are not integrated. >> you get not quite as much student here today. i want to go then to the first two. if you designed it to c.m.s.'s specifications and tested it and felt it was good to go, where did this break down? when would you have preferred that the end to end testing had been done by c.m.s.? miss campbell? >> see if i can get all those questions -- >> i'll make it simple. when should the end to end test have started?

mr. walden. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i want to thank all the panelists for their testimony today. i was in small business for 22 years in the radio business. we do with software upgrade and changes. i am feeling a lot of those motions come back today because when we put a new system in, there would be multiple vendors, and every one of them -- systems operated perfectly except when they came together. and then they would all pointed fingers at some yells. i am feeling a lot of that today. only as the person who represents three quarters of a million people and $500 million on the line, it is why we are here, to figure out what went wrong. why we are here to figure out what went wrong. i'd just like to know on this whole end to end thing. it sound like each of you has said that you designed your system and tested it to the specifications you were given by cms is that accurate? yes or no. miss campbell? >> that is correct. >> mr. slavitt? >> yes. >> our systems are not integrated. >> you get not quite as much student here

mr. walden. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. >> i was in small business for 22 years. i am feeling a lot of those emotions come back today because when we put a new system come in, there would be multiple vendors. those systems operated perfectly until those systems came together. i am feeling a lot of that today. we are here to figure out what it sounds like each of you has said that you designed your system and tested it to the specifications you were given by cms. where did this break it down. when would you have preferred the testing had been done by cms? >> wind should be cast have been started? is never enough testing, for sure. it occurred the last two weeks in september. did that give your company adequate time to make sure everything was integrated? >> it would have been better to have more time. >> how much more time would you have preferred? >> i don't have -- >> did you make any recommendations to cms about the need for end to end testing that occurred sooner than the last two weeks before it went live? >>dy not. >> did anyone in your company. >> i have to

mr. walden. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i want to thank all the panelists for their testimony today and i was in small business for 20 years in the radio business. we dealt and software upgrades and changes and all that. i'm feeling a lot of those emotions come back today because when we put a new system and, there would be multiple vendors and everyone of those systems operated per fully except when all came together. then they all pointed fingers at someonsomeone else. feeling a lot of that today, old as a person who represents three quarters of million people, $500 billion on the line. it's why we are here. to figure out what went wrong. and i would just like to know on the cell and the in thing, because it sounds like each of you have said that you designed your system and tested it to the specifications you were given by cms, is that accurate, yes or no? >> that is correct. >> mr. slavitt? >> yes. >> ms. spellecy? >> yes spent our ended -- our systems are not integrated. >> so you do not get quite as much opportunity h

mr. walden for his work. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from arizona. mr. grijalva: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. grijalva: i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. grijalva: thank you, mr. speaker. h.r. 2640, as my colleague describes, does several things including providing water and economic certainty to the irrigation district. the legislation also allows reclamation to operate and to allow reservoir the provision. we understand it will provide the certainty the city needs while protecting -- protecting the environment. we look forward to working with our colleagues in the senate and on the other side of the aisle to ensure that all the needs are met and protected. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker: the gentleman's time is reserved. the gentleman from alaska. mr. young: i yield whatever time he may consume to mr. wald

mr. walden in a previous question mentioned the fact that, in an individual market you would be able to keep your policy, grandfathered yet regulations issued by hhs say that grandfathered status would not be continued for so much as a 5-dollar change in a co-pay. is that accurate? and do you believe that is a significant change? >> sir, we gave, i think in the grandfather regulations a guide for how pricing could change, medical inflation and i think in most cases plus 15%. there were some individual consumer outfacing issues that were more rigid than that but i would say in terms of having companies being able to collect a profit margin, that was certainly built into the grandfather statute from the begining. >> i think that is too little a change, respectfully. >> the gentleman's time has expired. mr. tunkel. >> thank you, mr. chair and welcome, honorable secretary. thank you for fielding our questions and for responding when you were extended the courtesy to offer a response. as a strong supporter of the affordable care act i'm frustrated and i think it is fair to say that the american p

mr. walden. >> thank you very much, mr.irman, governor, secretary, delighted to have you before the committee. you and i both know how important this issue is to all americans that we get it right. so i hope you can appreciate we're trying to understand what we missed along the way, and one of the things that bothered me was the letter that was sent from your agency to the gao back in june 6th. and i'll read in part, it said, "we're in the final stages of finalizing and testing the i.t. infrastructure that will support the application enrollment process. hhs is extremely confident that on october 1st, the marketplace will open on schedule and millions of americans will have access to affordable quality health insurance." i'm just an average guy from a small town in oregon, but when i read that, it tells me you believed everything was good to go, the testing was in place, and we should have full confidence everything would work. correct? >> that's the letter i signed, yes, sir. >> actually, it was signed by your assistant. >

mr. greg walden. live coverage on c-span2. >> -- netflix and hulu. the lawyer communication networks language this is and because of a lack of innovation but rather than declining user base. high cost and unique regulatory mandates conspire to make the economics of upgrade unattainable. today we stand on the cusp of to transitions in the wired network. the ip transition and the upgrade of networks to fiber. these transitions are a natural evolution as technology advances come a greater capabilities develop, prices drop and forces the market to respond. while some of the costs of upgrading and wireline providers are reaching out from the route the all dated regulations once enacted to break up a monopoly remain. consumers have come to expect as well as they should competition among providers and the innovation, innovative offerings that result from that competition. the question we face today is what is the appropriate role for the federal government in this transition? we should be looking not only on a theoretical impact of the policies on the marke

mr. walden. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. . >> the system operated perfectly except when it all came together. then they pointed fingers at somebody else. i'm feeling a lot of that today, only as a person who represents 3/4 of a million people and $500 million on the line. that's why we are here to figure out what went wrong. i'd just like to know on this whole end to end thing. it sound like each of you has said that you designed your system and tested it to the specifications you were given by cms is that accurate? yes or no. miss campbell? >> that is correct. >> mr. slavitt? >> yes. >> our systems are not integrated. >> you get not quite as much student here today. i want to go then to the first two. if you designed it to c.m.s.'s specifications and tested it and felt it was good to go, where did this break down? when would you have preferred that the end to end testing had been done by c.m.s.? miss campbell? >> see if i can get all those questions -- >> i'll make it simple. when should the end to end test have s