mr. wallace: sure. mr. burgess: the chair thanks the gentleman. the chair recognizes the gentlelady from illinois. ms. schakowsky: in our first panel we talked about shame, we talked about it again in this panel. so i'm wondering if there are tools other than the individual having to report that couldn't be more effective? in your article you mentioned several cases in which a bank allowed older people to repeatedly withdraw large amounts of money and presumably when that was out of the -- presumably when it was out of order for that particular person. actually did nothing to investigate whether fraud was involved and perhaps didn't even notify anybody until the point at which the person attempted to get a loan from the bank. so what should be, or is being done to encourage bnks to take a more active role in intervening -- banks to take a more active role in intervening in these situations? ms. stanger: i don't have much information on this, except that some banks are making it part of the company-wide effort, such as wells fargo, they're educatin

mr. wallace: in they are going to tell me. representative burgess: a development, all right. i will yield back the balance of my time and seeing that there are no further members wishing to ask questions for this panel, i want to thank our witnesses for being here today. before we conclude, i would like to submit the following document for the record, by unanimous consent from a story by ms. stanger. without objection, so ordered. days tohave 10 business spend additional questions with a record, and i asked the witnesses to submit their responses within 10 business days of receipt of such questions. without objection, the subcommittee is adjourned. >> thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] announcer: mike wallace is -- lillis is senior reporter with "the hill," here to talk about the week ahead in congress. your piece along with your co-worker has the headline, ryan has votes to become speaker. tell us about that

mr. wallace? anslover: oh, mr. llace committed suicide when bess was and in those days, huge scandal. 18. a great stigma on the family. shattered her mother and this , really explains why bess wants to keep her family life private. she saw how this shattered her mother. she wants to shield her mother, she wants to shield her brothers from having the press dig through her family history and bring that up again. seale: well, it was a terrible thing for everyone. nobody ever understood why he did it. she left right after the funeral with the children for colorado and lived there for a year and then came back and moved into the house with her mother, with the children. swain: steven is up next in louisville. hi, steven. stephen: how are you doing this evening? swain: good, thank you. stephen well, actually, i had a : -- i was thinking of a few comments, but i know one of which -- i know you were talking about the suicide of bess's father in 1903, and it made me think of the reason why her partnership with harry truman,

mr. wallace. the limit on violations and civil penalties for violations, it seems $35 million for gm was too little. what do you think we should do? >> 1well, i think we desperatel need to raise those in order to provide an effective deterrent against corporate wrongdoing. especially because we just have to make sure that this is not the cost of doing business. these penalties cannot be considered merely the cost of doing business. it must be a real deterrent. >> thank you. i yield back. >> the gentle lady yields back and i recognize the ranking member of the full committee mr. pallone, five minutes for questions, please. >> thank you, mr. chairman. while this is while this is a hearing on legislative initiatives relating to safety, our committee has direct oversight responsibility regarding both clean air and deceptive practices and i would be remiss if i didn't bring up the following issue. last week the epa issued a notice of clean air act violations to volkswagen and related companies stating

mr. chairman. vester wallace prior to coming to congress i was a senior administrator and i was there during the recession from 07 until 11 and i must say the community colleges have exploded in enrollment during that time. not because so many people have gotten laid off of their jobs of all ages but particularly those who were 40 or 50 years old who got laid off their jobs need to come back to college because they had no digital literacy skills and they could even apply for jobs on line because of that digital literacy or illiteracy. so i'm very pleased that you are doing this. how would you encourage other schools? how much are you talking about this? obviously it's a nice platform for you to publicize but how are other communities -- are they taking up your baton and doing what you are doing or are you a unique program in the country? i'm not familiar with the various programs and then secondly what are some of the strategies you were using that are actually teaching the senior's? >> we are certainly not uniqu

mr. chairman. vester wallacerior to coming to congress i was a senior administrator and i was there during the recession from 07 until 11 and i must say the community colleges have exploded in enrollment during that time. not because so many people have gotten laid off of their jobs of all ages but particularly those who were 40 or 50 years old who got laid off their jobs need to come back to college because they had no digital literacy skills and they could even apply for jobs on line because of that digital literacy or illiteracy. so i'm very pleased that you are doing this. how would you encourage other schools? how much are you talking about this? obviously it's a nice platform for you to publicize but how are other communities -- are they taking up your baton and doing what you are doing or are you a unique program in the country? i'm not familiar with the various programs and then secondly what are some of the strategies you were using that are actually teaching the senior's? >> we are certainly not unique.

mr. chairman. thank you both for being here. professor wallace, what gave you the idea to start this up? just taking a look at you i am very impressed, not by your looks, i am very impressed by the idea that you would take this initiative? was the stricken by you, by your students? what made you think of this? >> one driving force, is the type of material that i teach to our students involves understanding users of the technology they're developing. students are developing the software the we are all going to be using in a few years, and i want them to understand what regular people are like, certainly people who don't have that kind of deep understanding of the technologies it they do. very often what happens is software people will develop software for other software people so we need to have a broader view of what the user base is going to be like. one thing i want to insert here, i got a message from one of my colleagues in breaking digital barriers, this is not exclusively a senior problem. digital isn't the -- liberty is a concern across age groups. we worked with people who are yo

mr. wallace. >> reporter: and could there be a connection between jordan wallace and daron wint?n 1976 wint lived in the same apartment complex as wallace' father-in-law. >> i think that is not a coincidence, but strong likelihood that they ran into each other, and that is likely the place where the first two men met. >> reporter: but what is not clear is in jordan wallace lived in the same building as wint or just visited, and we found no other indication that wint and wallace knew each other. >> i would say that the technology had been there in the go carts. >> reporter: wallace raised suspicions early on, because he raised questions about the money drop. >> with all of the questions of the stories of the quadruple homicide and him being the delivery person, does the excitement and the risk of his involvement in that case play with his memory? is it all innocent? >> have you seen this before in other cases? >> sure, sure. it happens in high pressure cases, and certainly here, the pressure is on, because four people are dead. >> reporter: despite the suspicions, the police have

mr. wallace. >> and could there be a connection between jordan wallace and darren wint?2006 wint lived in the same maryland apartment complex as wallace's father. >> i don't think that's a coincidence at all. i think that's very strong evidence that the two very likely ran into each other and knew each other. that very likely was the place where these two men first met. >> what's still not clear is if jordan wallace actually nifd in the same building as wint or just visited. and we found no other indication wint and wallace knew each other. >> i'd say five years the technology has been there especially in the electric ga carts. >> callous, a race car enthusiast, raced suspicions early on because investigators say he changed his story several times about the money drop. >> are these inconsistencies based on his being nervous with all of the story about quadruple homicide and him as the delivery person, does the excitement and the risk of his involvement in that case play with his memory? is it all innocent? >> have you seen this before in other cases? >> sure. sure. and i

mrs. wallace gazed into each other's eyes. >> i was focused on my vows and trying not to cry and, yeah, butn you definitely felt it as soon as the tide rolled in and washed over your feet. >> the final words said, the wedding party that weathered almost stopped, their biggest step in life taken during the highest tide of the day. >> folks say it's been an eventful weekend for flooding and they'd like to get back to some normal tide at some some time in the near future. >>> now at 5:00, a deadly confrontation. how a patient died after an altercation with a security guard. i'm meagan fitzgerald. >>> there was a gun shot and then the woman's car goes over this embankment into that apartment below. >> a bizarre accident and little by little we're learning more. >> metro's got a big problem on its hands. riders are staying away and that means revenue is down so how are they going to make up the difference? i'm adam tuss with a live report. >> we begin right now with breaking news. a fairfax woman just charged with ripping off the campaign of one of virginia's most powerful politicians. >> federa

mr. wallace, your testimony mentioned the breaking digital barriers program at michigan tech. that could serve as a national model. what are some of the common themes you observed in serbs -- seniors who have taken the course and will these trends be reflective of seniors nationwide. >> certainly the anxious kite site and fear of adopt egg technology is a profound one, and we need to balance this concern about fraud, which is absolutely legitimate, with a -- something that encourages them to explore in a safe way. and so finding that balance is really a key issue for us. 0e we till struggle but we look at ways to relate it to their life offline. what do you do to be sensible and safe and secure in your regular life? can you transfer those kinds of skims -- skills over the digital world? that's one thing that is -- >> i do want to say that -- let's see. 35 -- the pew research center reports 35% of americans age 65 and older currently use social media, up 27% from 2014. so more and more people are. and in 2014, pew reported 59% of the sage group using the internet with 71% going

mr. wallace, i do not recollect.dvice of my council i am taking the the fifth. >> we will see you sunday. >> we have a video of you in the box. >> it is hard to see but there you are. see you sunday, chris, thank you. >>> from chris wallace to justin beiber... >> surprise he is back with the brand new video, the song we're adding to our play list. it is something i'm not temperatures right now in the 50's, only upper 50's at lunch and then by this afternoon, a high of only 62 degrees. cooler air moving in, behind that coal front moving through, look at the temperatures, lower 50's, atlantic city, upper 40's, wilmington, north and west as well, but take a look further are north, looking at darker blues, those temperatures in buffalo, syracuse, albany into the the 30's. other big story, of course, hurricane patricia, continuing to follow that category five storm as it moves toward mexico, with catastrophic damage. a cooler weekend maybe a spotty shower on sunday. here's beiber. >>> according to tmz they are featured as

mr. blumenthal wallace advising you? >> he wasn't advising me and, you know, mr. chairman -- >> -- your most prolific e-mailer we have found on the subjects of libya and benghazi? >> that's because i didn't do most of my work on e-mail -- >> i'm not challenging that, mr. secretary. all i'm telling you is the documents show he was your most prolific e-mailer on libya and benghazi. my question to you is did the president, the same white house that said you can't handle him, can't hire him, did he know that he was advising you? >> he was not advising me, and i have no reason to have ever mentioned that or know that the president knew that. >> i want to draw your attention to an e-mail. it will be exhibit 67. this is informative. shall we pass on, in parathen calls, unidentified to the white house. if you're going to pass something on to the white house, why would you take off the identifiers? >> because it was important to evaluate the information. from a lot of intelligence i have certainly reviewed over the years, you often don't have the source of the intelligence

mr. cameron: let me thank major ian wallace for the work that he does. the 2% will make sure that all those who join our armed forces in the coming years will know that they will have world-beating equipment and technology at their fingertips. that is an important part of making sure we build strong morale. >> patricia gibson. >> thank you, mr. speaker. in my constituency, significant redundancy. how will the prime minister explore alternative uses for the terminals for the import and export of a wide range of solid and liquid products? mr. cameron: the honorable lady is absolutely right. this is a company that we work closely with government because of the enormous amount of key infrastructure and land that they own. i will look carefully with the secretary of eight and the authorities to see if there is anything we can do in this instance. >> does my right honorable friend share my concern that if the other place or to vote against tax credits, it would be a serious challenge to the privilege of this house, a privilege codified as long ago as 1678? let

mr. comey does, if he does anything at all as the campaign continues. thank you. >> thank you. >>> you can tune in to fox news sunday tomorrow because chris wallace will sit down with dr. ben carson to get his reaction to the polls, to mr. trump's attacks. you'll want to see this. check your local listings for air times and it's also here on the fox news channel tomorrow. >> absolutely. after weeks of deadly violence between israelis and palestinian s, secretary of state john kerry announcing israel and jordan have taken a step to reduce tension. at one of the holiest sites in jerusalem. will it be enough, is the question. >>> tropical depression patricia moving through western mexico after making landfall as a record-breaking hurricane. now all that water and precipitation on its way to texas. we'll have a live report straight ahead. >>> it was a category 5 hurricane patricia. now thankfully it turned into a tropical depression. the storm is now on its way north already heading toward flooded texas. 200 mile-an-hour winds left their mark throughout the region. william lajeunesse is live in mexico on the country's pacific coast with the very latest. hi, william. >>

mr. chairman. thank you both for being here. professor wallace, what gave you the idea to even start this up? just taking a look at you, i'm very impressed -- not by your looks. i'm very impressed by the idea that you would take this initiative. was this something driven by you, by your students? what made you even think of this? >> one driving force is that the type of material that i teach to our students involves understanding users of the technology that they are developing. so our students are going to be developing the software that we all are going to be using in just a few years. i want them to understand what what regular people are like. and certainly people who don't have that kind of deep understanding of the technology that they do. very often what happens is software people will develop software for other software people. so we need to have a broader view of what the user base is going to be like. by the way, one thing i want to insert here, i got a message from one of my colleagues at breaking visual barriers, this is not a senior problem. digital literacy is a concern for peop

mr. trump. what would you have done differently? let's hear what he says. >> well, we'll bring that that up in '08. i'll tell it to chris wallace.u, thaurls. >> my pleasure. >> now we turn to national tea party leader katrina pearson. good to see you, kat. so what do you make of that? what would donald trump have done differently in the accusations he seems to be leveling. >> here's the thing. people are acting like donald trump said george bushel flew the plane himself. he didn't say that. he stated the fact that george bush was president and, therefore, the buck stops with him. donald trump is a global business leader. and he understands the importance of leadership. and these are the same republicans that are complaining that barack obama isn't taking responsibility for the economy that he inherited from george bush. here's what would have been different under donald trump. very simple. immigration enforce lt. he would have secured the borders, the wall would have been built. many of these hijackers came to this country on a student visa, on a tourist visa on business visas. so, yeah, donald trump would have had some substanc

wallace years ago. >> more speculation over whether joe biden will make a presidential run. an adviser close to the vice president said he is nearing a decision and if mr. biden does decide to enter the race, that could prove quite a challenge for big names hillary clinton and bernie sanders. chr kristin fisher is here. hi, kristin. >> hi. joe biden has been telling top democrats this week to say he is getting into the race and he will make a decision some time over the next month. but that timetable is becoming frustratingly big for many democrats. >> i think that particularly within the democratic community there's a growing impatience with this period of reflection. i think he really is struggling with the emotional toll of running for president versus his ambition to do so. and he is obviously going to take every minute he can to weigh the two. >> many in washington believe joe biden is waiting to see how hillary clinton performs before the benghazi committee on thursday. clinton said she will do her best to answer the questions. a committee she again called a partisan arm of the republican national committee. >> i started testifying about benghazi

mr. beauprez: thank you, panelists. thank you very much. >> [applause] >> enjoyed it. nice to meet you. announcer: also at the annual steamboat institute freedom conference in colorado, peter wallace and discussed the causes of the 2008 financial crisis and whether it could happen again. he served in the treasury department during the reagan administration. this is about 45 minutes. >> we have peter wallison, who has written a book called "hidden in plain sight" about the 2008 financial crisis and if it could happen again. this anybody believe that it could happen again? yeah, unfortunately. peter was here back in march. did a presentation at the strings pavilion that was very

mr. speaker, is that it was issued by his classmate, whom i mentioned earlier, governor george wallace. governor george wallace and frank m. johnson were at constant odds with each other. they were at odds with each other not only as it relates to this march but as it related to the integration of schools, as a matter of fact, there were many people in alabama who are of goodwill who started to call frank m. johnson the real governor of illinois. because he stood toe to toe with governor wallace. and in so doing, he made real what the governor had the opportunity to do, but refused to do. the honorable frank. johnson, the hidden hand of justice, in alabama and the united states of america. in white vs. cook, 1966. he ruled that blacks should be allowed to and must serve on juries in alabama. black people have not always had the opportunity to serve, even when the law said they had the right to serve. and as a result of not having the right to serve, by virtue of the way people interpreted the law, they were denied service on juries. it was the honorable frank m. johnson that permitted t

mr. trump or any candidate nowsch but we learned in retrospect all it takes is one guy. think about how protection built up after bobby kennedy's assassination. i fast-toward to 1972, george wallace at his shooting in maryland. and then we say we have to protect all these guys. why do we wait for something like that? >> the government's always going to be reactionary. the leverage crisis to expand their footprint. but the problem with that approach is where does it sentenced i can tell you as a secret service agent, i see no logical reason baited ton the threat footprint that was around when president obama was a candidate -- i see no difference between that threat footprint and the one senator cruz has now. donald trump, marco rubio or anyone else. i can tell you the threat profile of president obama was not as bad as the media makes it out to be -- >> what constitutes -- do you go by crowds that are generated? does that get to be a security risk? they don't know how to handle the crowds? or just that security could be compromised because you have throngs. >> who is is why donald trump has a legitimate beef. your question is perfect. it's not written clearly. the law, title 18 o

wallace, my time is long over. i'll yield back and hopefully they can finish. >> sure, sure. >> thank you. >> chair thanks the gentleman. chair recognizes gentle lady from illinois. five minutes. >> mr. stanger in our first panel we talk about shame and talked about it again in this panel. so, i'm wondering if there are tools other than the individual having to report that couldn't be more effective? in your article you mention several cases in which a bank allowed older people to repeatedly withdraw large amounts of money and presumably when that was out of the presumably when it was out of order for that particular person, and actually did nothing to investigate whether fraud was involved, and perhaps didn't even notify anybody until the point at which the person attempted to get a loan from the bank. so, what should be or is being done to encourage banks to take a more active role in intervening in these situations? >> i don't have that much information on this except that there are some banks that are making it part of their company-wide effort, such as wells fargo, i understand, where they're letting -- educating everybody to be a reporter. in not every state has the same law i