mr. wasserman, who sits on the rent board, who also is a small property owner. he is the main attorney also for green tree veritas and a big corporate landlord. just make sure you all know that. for the small property owners, i want to let you know ben again, we're not doing away with operation maintenance. what we need to do away with is the speck la tory debt service -- [bell ringing] >> clerk: thank you. i want to focus on property taxes and keeping the property taxes in the equation. we agreed with you to take the debt service out, but property taxes are important to keep in. one reason is, in 2018, you'll no longer be able to write off a portion of the property taxes under donald trump's administration. he's changed the tax code to punish california property owners. also, you want to incentivize small owners to hold onto their buildings and allowing them to pass through the cost to keep the building. please keep the property tax in, let people pay their mortgages and stay in the rental housing business and not sell off to speculators. thank you so much. >>

mr. chairman. >> ms. wasserman shultz. >> so under the about ill that we passed out of the house, mr. harper's bill, what happens to confidentiality? >> confidentiality is still there. there is a provision for that. it's no longer called strict confidentiality anymore. we need to reach out to our lawmakers, the cha in particular to find out what the change is between strict confidentiality and confidentiality. for us, i don't think anything has changed in the sense that there is no affirmative duty for us absent waiver by the employee to discuss their claim with anyone. >> so we haven't changed the transparency in the new bill? >> the transparency changed in terms of reporting requirements. they are more ample. more fluid and certainly more on going. >> because i'm looking at the language in the bill which says protection of personally identifiedable information. if a committee to which refred report with respect to the claim, the committee shall ensure that the report doesot directly disclose the identity or position of individuals involved in the claim. >> you talking about the ethi