. >> mr. waush, the same question i ask the appellants, is there a historical history in the department related to at what point revocation comes into play? >> we can't get compliance anymore and they are constantly repeating the same violations over again and there is a public health -- >> let me rephrase that. how often do you revoke a license? >> quite often, in the last year 1/2, quite often. >> what is quite often? >> in the last year we've revoked at least 10 permits. >> any of those predominating from your point of view for unsanitary conditions? >> this is probably the worst one for unsanitary conditions. usually the criteria that we come -- commonly use is illegal activity, improperly dressed, those are the common ones that we revoke establishment permits for. >> okay. thank you. is there any public comment on this item? >> seeing none, then we'll take rebuttal. you have 3 minutes. >> first of all, i'm not sure what i'm trying to face. 1 minute all i hear is about unsanitary conditions in t