mr. wegner that i should ask about this, but are you familiar with the litigation between the general hospital and sutter health? >> to a small extent, based on reading the newspaper. i am not intimately familiar. >> are you aware that -- this is something that has gone on for some time but there is an issue there that was the allegation that they escalated the amount of money that was being transferred out of marine general hospital. and it said that they had transferred as much as $180 million, which they claim was transferred illegally, and this was recently an arbitration award that was given for the marine general hospital. they would pay $21 million. are you familiar with that arbitration award. >> on the surface -- the allegations are serious but they say money was transferred out of that hospital and this is a significant allegation. if we will go into business with this agency, this goes to the past practices. by fay, i mean the north-based business journal, -- by a day, -- by they, i'm in the north based business journal. according to this report, and this was dated -- it is alleged