the defense is that mr. weitz didn't know what he did not know. is that what we can expect from now on? >> what we can expect is that we will -- what you can expect is that we will get the most accurate information that we can. we were rushed. if you look at the emails that we center around, people interacting with one another trying to find information, there was a time pressure there that frankly they should not have allowed in the process. they should have sent a placeholder response or something like that, and if it took two weeks to get a response back to congress, that would have been better than the four or five days that it took. that was certainly one of the problems. there was a lesson learned. >> thank you, mr. gowdy. the gentleman from florida is recognized. >> thank you for your candid responses. i would note that sometimes in the way of political theatrics, i appreciate your candor and sharing with us today. can you, since we have -- can we back up a second? when did you learn about operation fast and furious? >> sometime at the begi