mr. werfel are acting commissioner. since today's hearing was supposed to be about irs implementation of the aca i ask we invite officials from all irs offices in charge of this program. on monday you refuse and i heard you this morning just a few minutes ago when he said we are not finished with this and i'm pleased to hear that and that other witnesses would come forth later. i asked these officials to attend today along with irs commissioner werfel encase committee members had questions outside the scope of ms. ingram's responsibilities. last night he received a letter from mr. werfel stating he personally told him that he and other irs officials were not welcome. that essentially they were banned from the hearing room. i have seen a lot of things as a member of congress over my 17 years but i have never seen a committee chairman tell the head of an agency that he cannot be present during a public hearing with one of his own employees. i will read the letter. i see you moving around a little bit and i want to make su

mr. chairman. >> i thank the gentleman. quick announcement. i spoke to acting commissioner werfel, and he was not able to get us the documents that we presented to you. additionally, obviously, he -- not obviously, but he stated that in fact he wouldn't be able to determine whether you were correct or not correct about that being 6103 documentation. i'll work out with the committee and the commissioner how question go through and get properly redacted material going forward. how we can get the discovery we did not. we'll try resolve some of those questions. hopefully, without having you back. even though i desperately would like to know the details underneath these communications and others. and from our oversight, it appears as if though are hundreds, not thousand of documents that claim to be 6103 that are not. you are noted in the redaction business neither is the commissioner directly. i want to go through a couple of short things. let me run through the numbers and ask your your experience of working with the community makes sense. warren buffett may bees a couple of billion