mr. whitaker, i have some questions and i'm sure other commissioners do. do you normally accept deliveries through the back door? >> no. >> no beer, no sound equipment? everything goes through the front door. so that would not be an issue the back door deliveries? >> that has never happened. you'd have to build a large ramp. what we're trying to do is alleviate a concern that the neighbor might have for the future. >> and then you're not dumping bottles but do you have a recycling person that comes and separates your trash? why don't you come up so we can ask the owner? are you with the club? are you with 26 mix? [inaudible] >> ok. so come on up. ok. so do you employ -- do you have a recycling person that separates the trash and pulls out bottles. would you come up and state your name, please? >> my name's jesus torrez and yes, we do have somebody that does the recycling. >> ok. what time of day does that yes. >> ok. >> we would not do anything prior to 11:00 a.m.. from 11 a.m. until 6:00 p.m., we have the flexibility. >> do you understand how the recyclin

mr. trini whitaker. sullivan philips. ken lunardi. and joseph hsu. come up and get your trophies. ghter] now it's time for what you've been waiting for, third place, ladies and gentlemen, mr. howard woo. howard woo. again, they're not booing you. all right. mr. ken mcdonald. chief of muni operations officer, please come forward to help me present the second place trophy. second place, ladies and gentlemen. mr. frank ware. and before we announce the winner i'm going to drag this out even longer. i'm going to take a moment to thank the kind people who made the 47th annual cable car bell ringing contest possible the the vice chair of the sfmt board of directors. and friends of the cable car music, union square association, trophy masters shanghai restaurant, ghirardelli chocolatesing, and the american automobile association and the $250 cash prize, deluxe sightseeing. let's bring up gilberto gad oy with the hand-crafted bell. and the winner is -- >> mr. leonard oates. congratulations. >> leonard oates. he retains the crown. [applause] that concludes the 47th annual cable car bell ring

mr. whitaker, you just need to build this into the business itself. if stores are propped open, that is a possible violation which can issue a citation. this will endanger your permit. keep that in mind. >> i just want to say that security is not an issue. if a security person was placed at that internal door with instructions that other employees could not leave it a jar and patrons cannot exit unless there was an emergency and that would really help to solve the problem as well. anything else, commissioners? >> i used to have one question. with respect to the posers gosh to the proposal, he suggested that some of you are ready planning on a new door. would that satisfy the concerns? >> >> i sure hope so. >> can someone offer up a motion? >> i would move that we approve this permit. is this final approval? >> conditional. >> with the extra -- the good neighbor policy is always a test. with the additional conditions agreed to, with conditions number 1, would this be commissioner joseph? to be replaced with the language that we always attached regardin

mr. whitaker. -- thank you. >> dan murray -- murphy, stakeholder in the eastern neighborhoods. i was appointed to be on the eastern neighborhood infrastructure finance work group, which was actually the group that recommended this half -- this ifd tool for transitioning areas in san francisco, so i have been very involved in the background. recently, i was voted by the members to represent the neighborhood cac on this committee, which is piloting this incredibly important financing tool in the rincon hill area. i think the policies that staff has developed in consultation with people like me representing the public are right on point. i think it is a great program. i would be remiss if i did not say in the context of being on the eastern neighborhood cac, i look forward in the not too distant future of working with this type of tool in the eastern neighborhood. i recognize the -- that rincon hill is a pilot area, but i hope we do not wait five years to be able to do this. this is a growth area for san francisco. private sector development for close to 30 years now. i can tell y

mr. trini whitaker. [ringing bells] [applause] >> nice. trinny whitaker, ladies and gentlemen. first time today. he's a conductor

whitaker, cbs news, los angeles. >> and joining us exclusively now from los angeles is brian oxman, attorney for joe jackson, minele's father. mr this morning. how are you? >> good morning. >> conrad murray pleads not guilty at his arraignment. the trial now set for sometime in march. can i just ask how the jackson family is doing? >> they are doing okay. they're pretty strong. i talked to la toya jackson last night and she says, brian, are they really going to say that conrad murray didn't do this? is somebody really going to try and make that statement? i said, yeah, la toya, that's exactly what we're going to hear. and she just said, i can't believe that. i sat in that courtroom, she said, there's no way that conrad murray isn't responsible for michael jackson's death. >> well, they sat through the preliminary hearing, and like you said la toya made comments like that. is the family ready to endure what they're going to have to hear to sit through a prolonged trial now? >> i don't think anybody can be ready to endure that kind of thing. and i think that what it comes down to is they have to be ready. they have to do it. and