mr. wigman. thank you, both. as i said, you submitted joint testimony, and that will be part of the record. . so i appreciate your not taking every minute of your time here. i will say about the disclosures. i have said that these have been in good faith. it's just that there's nothing in law about them. there's nothing permanent about what you're doing. we're trying to create a framework where people have more confidence and understanding or can decide for themselves whether they should have confidence. mr. lit, you indicated that odni may lack the technical ability to estimate the number of u.s. citizens and permanent residents whose information has been collected under the different surveillance authorities. i find this troubling. we give broad legal power to conduct surveillance precisely because that is supposed to be targeted at foreign adversaries, not at americans. many of the broadest laws we have written like section 702 of fisa says that you can only use this law only to target foreign people. you cann